The following dialog is from several months' worth of ICQ conversations with an agent in Ukraine. This is fairly typical of the amount of work/negotiation that takes place when buying calculators from the former Soviet Union, and is especially typical of the types of disappointment which regularly show up.
In this case, our trading relationship has (hopefully temporarially) soured; have a good read and let me know what you would have done in the same situation. Would you send more money, or not?
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| 12/26/20 7:59 PM | Sir,would you be interested in more russian
calculators?I have a lot in inventory .....
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| 12/27/20 1:03 AM | absolutely. please let me know what models
you have.
thanks
A
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| 12/27/20 1:07 AM | OK,I will check and give you the results
later.The thing is I live in the Ukraine-you
understand-it is not difficult to find our
stuff here.....
Would you be interested in ordering some
specific russian models from me?
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| 12/27/20 1:08 AM | yes, i'd be interested in ordering specific
models. i'm particularly looking for several
of the MK-47 machine. are you familiar with
this one? do you have any?
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| 12/27/20 1:11 AM | Not really but I will check and give you the
results in a couple days...
BTW,I need to know the price you would pay for
them so I could count on the shipment expenses
as well....
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| 12/27/20 1:13 AM | price depends VERY much on machine and
condition.
For example, a VEGA might bring a high price
(several hundred dollars), as might an MK-47.
Other machines like MK-90 I offer something
around $50+.... and right now I have about a
dozen new MK-60 machines, so I'm not paying
much at all for those. Really, it depends on
the machine.
I'm after B3-04, MK-47, VEGA, and a few others
- especially anything military :) or that I
don't have listed
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| 12/27/20 1:17 AM | OK, I have access to a large number of
calculators but I am not familiar with the
models so I will check what is possible to
find.Now I need to quit but if you are
interested it probably would be better if you
e-mail me the list of everything you want from
Russia and the prices for each item...Then I
will chek in the inventory.
My e-mail is: (********) |
| 12/27/20 1:19 AM | i'll try to remember. but first, please let
me know if you have vega or mk-47
thanks for contacting me :)
cheers!
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| 12/27/20 1:21 AM | I think I do have mk-47(maybe even not one)
but I have never heard of vega...
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| 12/27/20 1:21 AM | ok, please check, and let me know the serial #
and date/price on the back of any machines you
have.
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| 12/27/20 1:22 AM | ok,no problem:-)
Bye
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| 12/27/20 1:23 AM | bye :)
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| 12/27/20 10:46 PM | Hi,
I have e-mailed you a couple models of
calculators-what do you think of them?
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| 12/27/20 10:48 PM | these are fairly common machines. as i have
been collecting for several years now, i
really need to find the 'difficult' machines..
and so offer a lot of $$$ for those. thanks
for the info on machines - haven't had a
chance to reply, yet.
no sign of an mk-47 or vega or military
machines (MK-87, 95s?)
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| 12/27/20 10:52 PM | I can check on those only this weekend-this is
when I will give you the definite
reply...Anyway for now would you be interested
in buying these 2 models?
Also,what about MK-54?
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| 12/27/20 10:54 PM | the MK-54 is more interesting, as it is harder
to find. The first two are very common
(B3-14/M was the first machine I had). Does
yours have a red LED display, or green
fluorescent? The MK-44 is very common, and I
have about 5 of these already. I only have
two MK-54, but really need to save my $$$ for
the machines I don't have. Sending money to
anywhere in the former CCCP is very expensive!
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| 12/27/20 11:01 PM | Yep,wire transfer onto my account from the US
regularly takes about USD 30...in fees
But,the shipment to your country will be
pretty expensive also-that is why I am
interested in selling you several machines at
a time...
The B3-14m has a green fluorecsent display...
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| 12/27/20 11:02 PM | i have 'agents' all over the place who handle
shipping/collection for me, so we don't have
to worry TOO much about shipping. Depends on
what you find for me.
I hate to say 'no' to things, but
post-Christmas $$$ are very short right now,
and I need to save for when the really needed
machines show up. You said you had a lot of
machines - how many is a lot?
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| 12/27/20 11:05 PM | My relative has 10-15.The thing is at the
moment I do not know which models he has...I
will know Monday,sounds good?
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| 12/27/20 11:08 PM | sounds teriffic! i do like to get serial
numbers and dates of all machines, even if i'm
not interested in buying... it helps me learn
early and late dates of manufacture. any
information you can provide is most
appreciated.
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| 12/27/20 11:10 PM | ok,why does it sound terrific then? :-)
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| 12/27/20 11:10 PM | it means I'm pleased
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| 12/27/20 11:13 PM | oh,ok....
but if there is good stuff in there you will
get it right?Like if I find more then one
MK-47?Also would be really interested in the
definite price you would pay for the MK-47...
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| 12/27/20 11:14 PM | find me a guaranteed MK-47, and if you are
able to send me scans or photos or some other
proof (for I have had many people attempt to
trick me on this one), then I offer US$250 for
this machine alone. It is very rare, and I
really want one. For me, this is a LOT of
money, and I really can't afford it. But,
that is my offer.
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| 12/27/20 11:16 PM | OK,I got your point...I will get you the
answer next MOnday then.
See ya...
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| 12/27/20 11:17 PM | bye :)
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| 12/28/20 6:13 AM | hey,tomorrow I will have an MK-47(without
documents and case)....:-)
also I have an MK-36 and MK-51: would you be
interested in these last 2 ones?
I would love to hear from you regarding the
items I have offered to you so far.
as for my relative's inventory,I will give you
the answer Monday.
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| 12/29/20 5:51 PM | hello. did you write me an email
yesterday/today about finding an MK-47?
My machine has crashed, and I had to
reinstall.
Thanks
A
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| 12/29/20 9:27 PM | hello. did you send me an email about an
MK-47? i lost all yesterday's emails :(
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| 12/30/20 1:15 AM | Hi,could you give me the complite list of the
russian machines that are of interest to you
because I will right it down and check on all
of them tomorrow....
BTW, a guy told me he has an MK-47...-he just
could not find it yet....
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| 12/30/20 1:21 AM | ok. of most interest right now are any
mechanical calculators from before 1920,
P44SM, large desktop machines (Rasa, Ros,
Orbita), EDVM, VEGA, Elektronika PPV, EKVM-P,
electronic machines (B3-04, mk-47, mk-90,
b3-54, MK-72, MK-87, MK-95) and finally,
anything NOT mentioned on my site :)
i am VERY dubious about the MK-47; many times
it has been reported, only to disappear!
don't spend any money on it till you SEE it :)
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| 12/30/20 1:57 AM | but what is:EDVM, VEGA, Elektronika PPV,
EKVM-P-are these desktops or just calculators?
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| 12/30/20 2:01 AM | BIG, old calculators like very big typewriters
:)
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| 12/30/20 2:02 AM | OK, thank you for the information and the
advice...I will keep you posted....
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| 12/30/20 2:04 AM | good luck with the mk-47 :)
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| 12/30/20 2:05 AM | thx...will do my best just to proove I
can..:-)
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| 12/30/20 2:07 AM | :)
i'm REALLY wishing you luck!
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| 12/30/20 2:07 AM | I guess....:-)))
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| 12/30/20 2:08 AM | BTW, if I understand that right, you will buy
everything you have given in the list, is that
so?
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| 12/30/20 2:10 AM | it depends on your asking price.
but yes, these are machines that I am VERY
keen on buying.
some are >25kg, though... so it depends on how
I can get them here, too. tell me what you
find from that list, then let me think about
that :)
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| 12/30/20 2:11 AM | OK,no problem...
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| 12/30/20 2:16 AM | ok,bye...:-)
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| 12/30/20 2:16 AM | bye :)
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| 12/30/20 2:17 AM | hope to bring you good news...
bye
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| 12/31/20 2:59 AM | Sir, I have 2 russian MK-87 calculators,new
with documents and case....
I guess they are in your want list-so would
you,please,inform me on how much you would get
them for...:-)
BTW, just to inform you- they were made in
1987 and this is a jubelee model: says:
'70-years to the Great October' on the
papercover of the documents.
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| 12/31/20 9:52 AM | mk-87 - great find. Can you accept US$50
each?
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| 12/31/20 9:36 PM | well, you see the shipment for me would turn
out in USD 90....
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| 12/31/20 9:49 PM | i'll be back in a half-hour or so. let's chat
then, if you're online.
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| 12/31/20 9:49 PM | so what do you think?The calculators are new
and look great!
anyway, do please understand- it is not
profitable for me to come up equal with the
money I will spend for buying them and
shipping...
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| 12/31/20 9:49 PM | ok,I will wait for you..
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| 12/31/20 10:27 PM | ok, back!
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| 12/31/20 10:27 PM | how much would shipping to moscow be?
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| 12/31/20 10:28 PM | ... and to belarus?
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| 12/31/20 10:28 PM | You mean from the Ukraine?
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| 12/31/20 10:28 PM | yes!
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| 12/31/20 10:29 PM | just very roughly will do
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| 12/31/20 10:30 PM | guess about USD 10 but I am not sure-I have
never done that...
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| 12/31/20 10:31 PM | ok, say US$10 as a guess.
so, can you buy the calculators AND get a
reasonable profit for youself if I offer $50
each + $10 to post to MOSCOW/BELARUS?
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| 12/31/20 10:32 PM | I guess so...
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| 12/31/20 10:33 PM | you don't sound sure :)
why don't you name a price you'd be happy
with, for the machines you find, and i'll just
say yes or no. remember, I have to pay US$30
on top of money I send, just to pay the cost
of sending money! I have to be very careful
about how much I spend - for I am really *not*
a rich collector!
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| 12/31/20 10:36 PM | Look, I am just a student and never done the
calculators collecting before,(though I done
some collecting business with the partners in
the USA) but I have prooved I can find
something,right?At the moment I do not have
Much money on My account even to look for the
calculators...
I am sure I will be really interested in doing
constant business with you if you could afford
to pay USD 150 this time...
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| 12/31/20 10:39 PM | ummm... that's way out of my league, really.
most of the machines i've bought have been
US$10 - $20 each. $50 is a high price, $70 is
the highest I've ever paid. I offer $250 for
the MK-47, so you see how much I want that.
i'll have to think about $150, as I am
particularly poor at the moment. How soon is
it necessary to get you an answer?
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| 12/31/20 10:42 PM | the sooner-the better because you see I
already have people running and looking for
the machines that are of interest to you
...and as I have just payed for the tuition I
am afraid if they find something I will not
even be able to buy that stuff from them...
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| 12/31/20 10:43 PM | can you do me pictures? i really need to see
a scan / photo/photocopy before purchase.
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| 12/31/20 10:45 PM | I have never done business otherwise(I mean
without sending the pictures first)
I will do the pics with the digital camera-and
will send them to you tomorrow.
BTW,what exactly would you be interested to
see in the pics?
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| 12/31/20 10:46 PM | I mean what should I do a stress on?
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| 12/31/20 10:49 PM | i'd like to use the pictures on my website...
i have none right now. a good front-view, and
a picture of the backplate would be really
nice. a close-up of the display, and the
keyboard would also be great. and if a
manual, a picture of the machine sitting on
the manual.
but really, whatever you can do will be great.
thanks. i'll talk to my friend in Moscow to
see if he wants one, and if we can do a better
price.
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| 12/31/20 10:50 PM | just to clarify one thing... you said $150...
is this for both machines, including postage
to MOSCOW/Belarus... or just for one machine?
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| 12/31/20 10:53 PM | both...but...before doing the pics I would
really love to know that you will get the
machines from me because at the moment I cacot
really afford paying for anything that will
not do profit for me.If you will buy the
machines from me I will send you 5 different
digital images so you could see
everything...Would that do?
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| 12/31/20 10:54 PM | thinking...
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| 12/31/20 10:54 PM | ok...
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| 12/31/20 10:56 PM | i honestly have *no* money right now. i have
to wait till wednesday for pay, and had to
*borrow* money from the bank to make our loan
repayment for monday. so money is REALLY
tight. i understand your need for money, but
I have to sell something to make $$$ to send
to you. this is OK by me, but it takes a
little time. If $120 all-up, including
postage to Belarus/Moscow, then I can say OK
now - but it will take me a week to send....
and...
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| 12/31/20 10:56 PM | i'd like pictures before sending the money.
if that is possible, then I can agree now to
$120. More, and I'll have to think about it,
and discuss it with my wife.
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| 12/31/20 11:01 PM | OK, I would like to close the deal on USD 150
but
how about we do it like this:
I will send you the pictures and then you will
wire me the USD 120.upon receiving the money
from you I will send the calculators to
Russia/Belarus(I guess they will later somehow
get to you)
The remaining USD 30 you will wire to me
around January 20th.
would that be ok with you?
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| 12/31/20 11:03 PM | OK, that seems good enough. However, a couple
of points...
1) $120 must wait about a week before I send
2) it costs me $30 to send money, so spending
$30 to send $30 is silly.
3) Find me more machines before I send the $30
and include it with the next bigger payment?
4) Any progress/news on MK-47?
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| 12/31/20 11:06 PM | 1) if I understand that right I will get the
money in 2 weeks?
2,3) sounds reasonable
4) this is quite a rare thing....a couple
people told me they have one but-will take
some time to chek...I have already learned not
to believe untill I see one...
a whole bunch of more people are looking for
one...I am pretty sure we will be able to find
some sooner or later...
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| 12/31/20 11:08 PM | yes, i will send you US$120 by Western Union
within two weeks. *shake*. Before that you
send me pictures of the machines. After $120
arrives safely, you send machines to Belarus
or Moscow. I will then owe you $30 for
sending sometime soon - hopefully with more
money for other machines you find.
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| 12/31/20 11:12 PM | ok,no problem I will send you the pictures
either tomorrow or the day after tomorrow
then...
anyway,I would prefer you somehow were able to
send the money earlier because I have told
you-if my people find something,I will not
even be able to buy it from them-and we could
loose some good picks...so...but if it is hard
for you to do the wire any earlier...let it be
so...
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| 12/31/20 11:15 PM | i promise to do it as soon as I can.
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| 12/31/20 11:16 PM | ok...I will send you the pictures then
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| 12/31/20 11:17 PM | deal?
btw, if I find something else from your want
list will you afford to buy it?
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| 12/31/20 11:19 PM | yes, deal!
please do let me know anything you find from
my want list. though I am short of $$$, if
something good comes up, i sell something I
don't need/want as much... this is why i
usually need a few weeks time before making
payments... to plan for money I have to send.
i have basically $0 available and have to sell
to buy :)
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| 12/31/20 11:19 PM | can you tell me a few things about mk-87?
is it programmable?
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| 12/31/20 11:22 PM | yep, plus it has a russian keyboard on one
side of the cover and calculator on the
other...looks pretty cool and is not big at
all.also in russian says:' micro computer' not
'micro calculator'...you will see it soon...
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| 12/31/20 11:23 PM | excellent. can't wait!
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| 12/31/20 11:26 PM | yep, send the money this week and you will get
it really soon:-) BTW, that would be really
good for bpth of us...
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| 12/31/20 11:26 PM | i understand. send me an email to remind me
of everythign :)
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| 12/31/20 11:27 PM | of what?
of your 'so much desire to have it soon' along
with your 'willingness to send the wire this
week'? :-)))
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| 12/31/20 11:28 PM | i leave things in my inbox until they're done.
its just a reminder :)
doesn't matter... when you send the images,
i'll leave those in my inbox, and that will be
reminder enough.
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| 12/31/20 11:29 PM | yep, I am pretty sure that will be so!!!!
:-)))
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| 12/31/20 11:30 PM | ok. thanks, and now the deal's done I'm eager
to get things happening.
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| 12/31/20 11:31 PM | ok, you will get the pics either tomorrow or
the day after tomorrow,then it will be your
turn so it happened faster..
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| 12/31/20 11:31 PM | yep.
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| 12/31/20 11:33 PM | sounds great...OK, I need to leave soon ..I
will inform you as something new will turn up.
Bye
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| 12/31/20 11:33 PM | bye :)
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| 1/2/2001 9:58 PM | hi,Happy New Year!
I am just getting the pictures into the
computer and will send them to you in 20
minutes...:-)
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| 1/2/2001 10:00 PM | BTW,I would really appreciate it if you could
give me your website address so I had some
information on what you collect and also so I
had an idea of what the MK-47 looks like...
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| 1/2/2001 10:14 PM | hey, are you there?
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| 1/2/2001 10:16 PM | AM now! can't wait for the piccies :)
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| 1/2/2001 10:18 PM | yep,I already have 'em on my computer...you
are to get the images in a few minutes!
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| 1/2/2001 10:22 PM | great.
website it
http://www.taswegian.com/MOSCOW/mk-47.html
Put machine (with a dash) for any other
machine
ie: mk-87 is
http://www.taswegian.com/MOSCOW/mk-87.html
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| 1/2/2001 10:31 PM | not too big an email, thanks... over about a
meg will bounce
send several smaller ones if you have to,
thanks.
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| 1/2/2001 10:32 PM | I have olready sent you the first batch...
working on the others...
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| 1/2/2001 10:33 PM | i'll let you know as soon as they arrive
how many pictures altogether?
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| 1/2/2001 10:34 PM | 7
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| 1/2/2001 10:34 PM | great. are you sure it is programmable? it
seems unlikely to me.
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| 1/2/2001 10:37 PM | you could send me a file ICQ if you like.
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| 1/2/2001 10:37 PM | well...it can be used a as a notebook or
calculator...
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| 1/2/2001 10:38 PM | ok, so it's not programmable. not a problem,
i just wanted to know.
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| 1/2/2001 10:39 PM | there is a bunch of stuff to do with it-I
really yet do not have nore time nore desire
to get into it...:-) as soon as you get it you
will have plenty of time to figure everything
out:-))
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| 1/2/2001 10:40 PM | oh, but they're so fascinating... how can you
resist ;)
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| 1/2/2001 10:41 PM | you know what a winter semester end is for a
student don't you?:-)))
consider also I need to do business at this
time also...:-))
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| 1/2/2001 10:42 PM | just wait till you have children.
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| 1/2/2001 10:43 PM | oh,yeah...:-))
that is what I work for...I have a girlfriend
and need to think of the future...:-)
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| 1/2/2001 10:45 PM | no picture emails yet.
can you send one pic by ICQ?
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| 1/2/2001 10:46 PM | I probably will have to because I have got a
mail delivery-failure notification...:-(
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| 1/2/2001 10:47 PM | how big was the email?
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| 1/2/2001 10:47 PM | about 800kb
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| 1/2/2001 10:47 PM | can you send it one mail/picture?
also, try to ICQ just one (the best)
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| 1/2/2001 10:48 PM | yeah,this is what I am doing at the
moment...hopefully that will work:-)
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| 1/2/2001 10:52 PM | did you get the pic?
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| 1/2/2001 10:52 PM | not yet. email?
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| 1/2/2001 10:53 PM | no ISQ and notify...
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| 1/2/2001 10:54 PM | noooo... you should see "File" when switched
to advanced mode, and that should try to send
me the file straight away (I have to confirm).
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| 1/2/2001 10:56 PM | good! i am currently receiving a largeish
email, too. possibly yours?
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| 1/2/2001 10:58 PM | I guess so...
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| 1/2/2001 10:58 PM | for transfer of money, I need the full name
and address of the person who will COLLECT the
money. It will be sent to your nearest
WESTERN UNION office/agent, and that person
will need photographic identification to
collect.
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| 1/2/2001 10:59 PM | yeah, that is a subject of a little later
disscussion:-)
did you get any pictures so far?
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| 1/2/2001 11:00 PM | within a minute i will have a picture to view.
i have a slow connection (33.1kbps)
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| 1/2/2001 11:01 PM | I have 128 over here...
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| 1/2/2001 11:01 PM | ok, i have picture! thanks :)) i'll put it
up on my site tonite.
a rather ugly and unattractive calculator!
it's definitely not programmable.
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| 1/2/2001 11:02 PM | if you have such bandwidth, you could download
a short mpeg i made of my city, if you wish
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| 1/2/2001 11:02 PM | well... so do you need the other pictures?
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| 1/2/2001 11:03 PM | yeah,that would be cool(about your city)I
would love to...
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| 1/2/2001 11:03 PM | not "need", no... but please send them. I
really want to get everything you have.
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| 1/2/2001 11:04 PM | ok, how about the deal then? are you seriously
not satisfied with the calculator?
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| 1/2/2001 11:04 PM | you misunderstood me. i'm VERY satisfied!
i was just commenting that it is poorly
designed :))
of course we have a deal :)
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| 1/2/2001 11:06 PM | good... now I am sending you the no 2 and then
no 3,4,5,6,7
BTW,meanwhile I would love to get a picture of
your city:-))
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| 1/2/2001 11:06 PM | try
http://www.taswegian.com/TwoHeaded/wellington.
pg - this is the mountain I live on, at the
top, looking back at the city.
and
http://www.taswegian.com/TwoHeaded/yard.mpg
this is our yard/house.
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| 1/2/2001 11:08 PM | cool....! that is your house? is that your
car?
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| 1/2/2001 11:09 PM | yes, yes. and the yard is rather big. 1
acre, actually
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| 1/2/2001 11:09 PM | the house is pretty small, though :)
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| 1/2/2001 11:11 PM | dammit! I wish I could have a rest in some
house like that surrounded by such a nice
nature! You have to thank God for living in
such a Heaven...
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| 1/2/2001 11:12 PM | yes, we are very lucky. but i gave up a high
paying job in the city of sydney to move down
here. now i have no job.
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| 1/2/2001 11:12 PM | i am VERY interested in the serial #s of the
machines
did you already give me these?
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| 1/2/2001 11:13 PM | yeah...one has to put something off to get
something more desirable...:-))
BTW, you never asked about my english-you
might guess it is not my native language:-))
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| 1/2/2001 11:14 PM | i have communicated with MANY people from
former Soviet Union; many of those have
excellent english. yours is better than most,
but it doesn't surprise me to find you have
good english.
your english is better than my russian :)
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| 1/2/2001 11:15 PM | ok, one is 07825 made in 1987
the other is 04337 made in 1987
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| 1/2/2001 11:16 PM | well as for my english -it has to be- I lived
in the US
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| 1/2/2001 11:16 PM | ok, you have got two more pictures-what do you
think of them?
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| 1/2/2001 11:18 PM | pictures are great, thanks.
i'm hoping for a close-up of front and back -
then I would be REALLY happy. but as it is,
i'm happy - a big thank you!
thanks for the serial #s, too.
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| 1/2/2001 11:18 PM | i, too, have lived in the USA
chicago
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| 1/2/2001 11:20 PM | that is where I lived for some time also...
ever happened to hear 'bout La Salle Ave?
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| 1/2/2001 11:20 PM | Mostly I lived in Minneapolis, though...
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| 1/2/2001 11:22 PM | my wife worked on la salle
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| 1/2/2001 11:23 PM | nice...I lived there 2 years ago...maybe we
even have been neighbors?:-))
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| 1/2/2001 11:25 PM | she worked in la salle street, chicago.
maybe you mean the city of la salle?
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| 1/2/2001 11:28 PM | nope, the street...:-))
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| 1/2/2001 11:29 PM | ok my wife lived with her aunt on la salle
st., in old town
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| 1/2/2001 11:31 PM | cool, you ever happened to be in
Minneapolis?
And how did you like O'hare?Once I had to wait
in the plane for 2,5 extra hours just because
someone had put the signs in the wrong
direction...that was fun:-)))
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| 1/2/2001 11:32 PM | no, no mineap. ohare is big, but LA is worse
:)) i like watching the planes land at
ohare... about 5 or 6 stacked on top of each
other, a couple of minutes apart. scary.
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| 1/2/2001 11:33 PM | yep,and cool!
How do you like the lake Michigan?
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| 1/2/2001 11:33 PM | it was big, but other than that i didn't
really have much of an impression. i liked
the little fish that washed up.
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| 1/2/2001 11:34 PM | well, I liked to swim there...
|
| 1/2/2001 11:34 PM | so, you were there in summer :)
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| 1/2/2001 11:35 PM | yep,that's right, and you?
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| 1/2/2001 11:35 PM | july-december, and several times since on
month-long visits.
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| 1/2/2001 11:36 PM | yeah, so how do you like the States?Probably
like a bunch of silly people,huh?
|
| 1/2/2001 11:37 PM | my wife is american.
i like the midwest a lot, but i really don't
like las vegas or california/la much.
|
| 1/2/2001 11:38 PM | what is the small (display?) or plate to the
right of the red/yellow/blue decal, with
"P.S.P.V" in it?
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| 1/2/2001 11:39 PM | I have never been to the south/west-I only
seen midwest..
Oh, that is just a clock:-)
|
| 1/2/2001 11:40 PM | ok. looks like the cover flap should have a
hole in it, then, to let that show through.
|
| 1/2/2001 11:41 PM | yep,impossible, though as there is a keyboard
on that cover:-)
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| 1/2/2001 11:41 PM | in other words, it's poorly designed!
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| 1/2/2001 11:43 PM | well, what were you waiting from the
russians?:-)))
have you ever seen anything of a good quality
from Russsia?
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| 1/2/2001 11:44 PM | the quality (workmanship) is often poor, and
the technology limited... but some great
things have been done by russia (especially in
space).
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| 1/2/2001 11:45 PM | yep, that is of no concern...as for me,though,
I would prefer they more cared about the well
being of the people.:-))
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| 1/2/2001 11:45 PM | wht do you do for living?
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| 1/2/2001 11:46 PM | i am a programmer. i designed most of the
technology in use at http://www.bde3d.com
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| 1/2/2001 11:49 PM | you know what?I am just about of organizing a
firm(this or the next month) that would do
programming for the firms in the USA.(the
difference in the salary is quite
impressive-so this is a really good
business).They need an off-shore-we need
somebody to work for:-)
What kind of programming do you do?
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| 1/2/2001 11:49 PM | ok,now you have got all the 7 pics,right?
|
| 1/2/2001 11:50 PM | i spent 10+ years doing games (!) for the
Nintendo and the like, mostly assembler.
these days I'm strong at graphics, windows and
that sort of stuff. C++ is my weapon
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| 1/2/2001 11:51 PM | yeah, that is a powerful tool!
Is there any interest in your country in
having off-shores of the kind? we could work
together...
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| 1/2/2001 11:52 PM | 10, 11, 12, 14, 15, 16, 17 yes. thanks!
i have a US bank account, and can transfer
money USA-> Australia very cheaply, so if you
ever need to do that just ask.
australia->USSR(former) is expensive though
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| 1/2/2001 11:52 PM | it strikes me that, relatively, labour in your
area is VERY cheap. however, it is also very
dangerous... there are no guarantees that the
job will be completed correctly. too far
away, that sort of thing. maybe you need
agents in the countries themselves.
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| 1/2/2001 11:53 PM | yep, western union is better in this case...
From the US it takes like 30 bucks to get a
wire onto my account here...
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| 1/2/2001 11:54 PM | good enough. check out PayPal - a FREE way to
send/receive money internationally. very very
very very good service. www.paypal.com
|
| 1/2/2001 11:54 PM | yeah, but why don't you consider the idea of
giving us a test work?I already have a team of
programmers ready so...
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| 1/2/2001 11:56 PM | because i am flat-broke!!
i'm not an employer, i'm a programmer :)
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| 1/2/2001 11:57 PM | got any friends in the firms who'd be
interested in the idea?Guess you still would
have enough money for registering a firm that
would buy the programs from us and resll it to
your firms...
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| 1/2/2001 11:59 PM | thx for the paypal but I guess it yet does not
work in the Ukraine...:-(((
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| 1/2/2001 11:59 PM | nahh, really... i'm just a guy who programs.
there's no way i'm able to get any business
for you at this stage, sorry.
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| 1/2/2001 11:59 PM | that's a shame.
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| 1/3/2001 12:00 AM | no problem...ever think it would be
possible-let me know!
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| 1/3/2001 12:01 AM | no worries. what sort of work do you do, and
what are your rates?
|
| 1/3/2001 12:01 AM | sure is a shame but I am kinda used to the
idea of my living in the Ukraine:-)))
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| 1/3/2001 12:03 AM | Look, at the moment these programmers are all
working apart(in a month they will get an
order from the US firm though) so....but they
can do just alsmost anything(I could send you
the resumes if you are interested)
they can do web development,design and
databases as well....
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| 1/3/2001 12:05 AM | i understand. i'll keep it in mind, if
anything shows up.
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| 1/3/2001 12:07 AM | ok,
so now lets get down to business...
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| 1/3/2001 12:14 AM | yes.
waiting for your info.
also, any news on MK-47?
|
| 1/3/2001 12:14 AM | 1)it appeared there is only one set of
documents for the 2 calculators(there is 2
boxes though)
2)I have told you I badly need the money so
what I propose to do is:
I
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| 1/3/2001 12:14 AM | will sell you these two
calculators+MK-44(box,no documents+B3-14M(no
documents or box but with an adaptor) for USD
150 altogether but considering the fact that
You will wire USD 150 to me tomorrow(or today
as you like) via western union,upon receiving
which I will send you these 4 calculators onto
the address in Russia/Belarus
Would that be OK with you?
|
| 1/3/2001 12:15 AM | yet no news for MK-47 but I sure will have
some as I get the money and be able to do some
advertisement...
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| 1/3/2001 12:16 AM | wellll, not really.
although you seem trustworthy enough, i need
to build up some confidence, because (and this
is NOT your fault) somebody before has sent me
pictures but never delivered the machine.
that's why I'd like to pay $120 up-front as
agreed... because at the very least I get the
pictures to put on my site (even if
calculators disappear). but i really want to
establish a reliable connection between you
and my agent(s) before more $$
|
| 1/3/2001 12:16 AM | re: mk47. you may be surprised. i have many
people looking, and many have tried
advertising. i thought you had a couple of
sightings already. not so?
|
| 1/3/2001 12:27 AM | yep, I do have some but they are in the other
cities so...I will not get there untill the
next week.So when will you be able to wire me
USD 120?
|
| 1/3/2001 12:28 AM | hopefully before/on Friday, but i need your
details (via email, please)
|
| 1/3/2001 12:28 AM | OK,What exactly do you need?
|
| 1/3/2001 12:29 AM | the name and address of the person who will
collect money from Western Union.
That person will need to take photo-ID to the
WU agent to collect funds.
I will ICQ/email you a secret number when the
transfer is done - the person must take that
number to the WU agent, too.
|
| 1/3/2001 12:31 AM | i have to scoot for half an hour - my
favourite tv show is on :)))
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| 1/3/2001 12:33 AM | OK,I will bet back to you tomorrow then.I
will send you the information today.Meanwhile
give me please theaddress of the person I will
need to send the parcel to.
Bye:-)
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| 1/3/2001 12:33 AM | ok, bye.
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| 1/3/2001 12:34 AM | have a good day!
|
| 1/3/2001 1:09 AM | hey,Andrew,
one more thing:
a friend of mine has a Felix calculator...What
do you think of it?
|
| 1/3/2001 1:10 AM | they sell for anything from US$30 to US$250
depends on the model and where the calculator
IS (ie: USSR or USA)
|
| 1/3/2001 1:12 AM | it is in Zaporozhye,Uklraine...But I am not
yet sure of the model...
Would you please give me the prices for the
models so I could check on wether it would be
profitable for me to start talking with him or
not...
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| 1/3/2001 1:13 AM | they are VERY heavy, and cost a fortune to get
from there to USA, so not many buyers are
interested. If it is older than 1920, then it
is very worthwhile getting it, though. If
newer, then it has to be in REALLY good
condition - otherwise, not really worth it.
|
| 1/3/2001 1:14 AM | I think the guy told me it is something of
1950s
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| 1/3/2001 1:15 AM | they are fairly easy to find, from that date.
worth perhaps $50 is my guess. but then you
have enormous postage cost.
|
| 1/3/2001 1:16 AM | yep,guess it is better just to forget about it
then...:-)
|
| 1/3/2001 1:19 AM | how was the show?
|
| 1/3/2001 1:20 AM | good:) Judge Judy!
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| 1/3/2001 1:21 AM | yeah,ok I have sent you my information...
bye.
Happy New Year!
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| 1/3/2001 1:22 AM | bye. i'll do your money transfer as soon as i
possibly can.
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| 1/3/2001 1:22 AM | thanks:-)
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| 1/3/2001 11:11 PM | OK, I will keep that in mind:-)
|
| 1/3/2001 11:49 PM | hi,how are you today?
have you already put the pics on the website ?
:-)
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| 1/3/2001 11:49 PM | yes indeed!
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| 1/3/2001 11:51 PM | could you give me the address please?I want to
see 'em...:-)
BTW, is the information I gave you enough for
the wire?
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| 1/3/2001 11:52 PM | http://www.taswegian.com/MOSCOW/mk-87.html
the info you gave is fine. I will definitely
send $$$ either tomorrow or Friday.
|
| 1/3/2001 11:54 PM | please, try tomorrow....that might be better
for both of us...:-)
|
| 1/3/2001 11:55 PM | i know you need it quickly.
|
| 1/3/2001 11:56 PM | yep...guess you also do not want to wait for
another month or two untill I find you the
MK-47? :-)
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| 1/3/2001 11:58 PM | ah, now there you are mistaken.
i have learned EXTREME patience when dealing
with russia/former Soviet places.
some items I purchased over a year ago, I have
not seen yet. Still in Moscow.
The trick, when buying Russian calculators, is
not to get too excited, and never never wait
on the doorstep for the mail to arrive. That
way, you don't get too disappointed :)
I'd love an MK-47 - yes - but a day or two
won't make much difference.
|
| 1/3/2001 11:59 PM | so where is the pics? there is only html
text...
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| 1/4/2001 12:00 AM | you must be behind a cache somewhere? the
pics are DEFINITELY there
try
http://www.taswegian.com/MOSCOW/mk-87.html?0
the ?0 bit sometimes fools cache software
|
| 1/4/2001 12:00 AM | guess you are right...for me though, the main
point is money as I am not interested in
collecting calculators:-) so as I am looking
for them-that is just because you will buy
them, you know...:-)
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| 1/4/2001 12:01 AM | yep, that worked....they turned out nice...:-)
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| 1/4/2001 12:02 AM | yep. one thing about the MK-47.... $250 is my
top price. I'm probably offering 2x what
anyone else will, anyway... but that's my
absolute limit. I consider that rather a
ridiculous amount to pay for a calculator
anyway, but I've promised that to some of my
scouts so that's what I'm offering. I have
already lost $200 'buying' this machine from
people, and had it never show up...
|
| 1/4/2001 12:08 AM | yep...shit happens...how is it dealing with
russians anyway?
BTW, do you need an MK-60?
|
| 1/4/2001 12:10 AM | i find russians EXTREMELY friendly and eager
to help. i have several very good Russian
friends, and I have helped them wherever I
could. Read the Ballad of Igor and Vlad on my
site. Only one guy has really ripped me off,
and I'm just a bit careful since then. This
is nothing to reflect on you... I am just
being cautious; as partnerships get more
trusted, I am less careful :)
MK-60 is not very desirable for me, sorry.
|
| 1/4/2001 12:11 AM | also...from your website:'Sergei reported that
this model was manufactured in 7000 pieces,
and made available only to party deputies'
that is actually where I got them from...:-)
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| 1/4/2001 12:12 AM | that's very good information, thanks.
i like information even more than having the
machines :))
I will have to find out more about what 'party
deputies' are
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| 1/4/2001 12:13 AM | would you anyway pay 30 bucks for it so I
include it in the parcel I will be shipping to
Moscow/Belarus?
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| 1/4/2001 12:15 AM | no, you misunderstand my prices. for MOST
machines I offer US$5 or so. (***) Typically, a price of $20 is unusually high.
The machines I have given you a list of are
the most desirable, so I pay much higher for
most of those. For ones not listed, only a
few $$$ at most... IF I wanted them.
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| 1/4/2001 12:15 AM | gotta go offline for about 5 minutes.
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| 1/4/2001 12:26 AM | hey, as for the MK-47...if I find 10 will you
be able to get them from me?:-)
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| 1/4/2001 12:26 AM | yes, but not all at once ;)
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| 1/4/2001 12:27 AM | i'd probably offer $250 for the first, maybe
that for the second
$200 for the 3rd, $150 for the 4th, etc. as
they become more common, they become less
valuable :)
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| 1/4/2001 12:28 AM | OK, IF I find 10 will you get them for USD
1500?
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| 1/4/2001 12:28 AM | gawd. you won't find 10. if you do, yes I'd
probably try and save that much.
|
| 1/4/2001 12:29 AM | well, as for finding them-it is my business,
don't you think?:-)
The most important part is to keep me
interested...:-)
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| 1/4/2001 12:30 AM | find me one, and I'll definitely buy another.
and another.... etc.
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| 1/4/2001 12:31 AM | deal.....:-)))
ok, gotta go...
see ya..:-)
please, hurry with the transfer-that would
help a lot in my findings...:-)
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| 1/4/2001 12:31 AM | ok. bye.
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| 1/4/2001 10:20 PM | Hi, anything new on the transfer?:-)
|
| 1/4/2001 10:25 PM | tomorrow guaranteed, rabbit died today
|
| 1/4/2001 10:26 PM | what does the second part mean?
|
| 1/4/2001 10:27 PM | home disaster, dead pet...money tomorrow
|
| 1/4/2001 10:28 PM | OH,OK...My condolences...
BTW, how much you buy the slide rules for?
|
| 1/4/2001 10:29 PM | Unless they're unusual, I'm not really
interested in sliderules at the moment.
|
| 1/4/2001 10:30 PM | what do you mean by unuasual?Just curious in
case I come across some...
|
| 1/4/2001 10:32 PM | russian sliderules are nearly all identical.
Anything circular, cylindrical or LOTS of
different scales might interest me.
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| 1/4/2001 10:35 PM | OK....
so if you wire the money tomorrow will I get
it tomorrow then?
|
| 1/4/2001 10:36 PM | 10 minutes after I wire it, it will be
available.
|
| 1/4/2001 10:37 PM | OK, what time are you going to wire it and
what is the time difference between Australia
and the Ukraine?
|
| 1/4/2001 10:38 PM | I don't know exactly...but around 12 PM (noon)
here. what's the time there now...it's 10:38 PM here now.
|
| 1/4/2001 10:40 PM | it is 13:38 over here-3 hours difference- I
will get it around 15-16:00 then?
|
| 1/4/2001 10:41 PM | it's 10:40 PM -- 22:40 here...so take off 9
hours or so
|
| 1/4/2001 10:46 PM | OH, pm...So is it still Wednesday in
Australia?Or Thursday?
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| 1/4/2001 10:48 PM | It is Thursday.
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| 1/4/2001 10:51 PM | oh,ok- then the money will be available Friday
morning...That is good.
Please, send me an e-mail with the information
as soon as you wire the money-I will check
e-mail in the morning then...
BTW,I am not 100% sure(as I have already
learned not to be) but we might have first of
the MK-47 machines in a week or so...
|
| 1/4/2001 10:52 PM | :))
|
| 1/4/2001 10:53 PM | yep...now I understand you when you said not
to buy one untill I see one...:-))
|
| 1/4/2001 10:54 PM | yep
|
| 1/4/2001 10:56 PM | but you know what the Bible says: 'The one who
seeks will find'......Or there is a good
russian saying:'if one wants too much-it is
possible for him to fly'...
|
| 1/4/2001 10:59 PM | well, i DIDN'T know what the Bible says :)
|
| 1/4/2001 11:00 PM | Now you know:-) BTW it is a wonderful book...a
lot of good thoughts in it.
|
| 1/4/2001 11:01 PM | i'm sure there are. not for me, though.
|
| 1/4/2001 11:01 PM | Why? You do not believe in God?
|
| 1/4/2001 11:01 PM | no, i do not.
|
| 1/4/2001 11:03 PM | too bad...I do.In fact most of the ancient
scientists did- the laws they
discovered,according to their understanding,
never gone apart from the Bible...:-)
|
| 1/4/2001 11:04 PM | i don't try to convince people god doesn't
exist, for each his own.
|
| 1/4/2001 11:05 PM | my own children will make up their own minds
on the issue.
|
| 1/4/2001 11:07 PM | Yep, that is good.
How old are you?
I will be 19 in a month....
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| 1/4/2001 11:07 PM | i am 36
|
| 1/4/2001 11:09 PM | how confident (%) are you that you have found
a MK-47?
|
| 1/4/2001 11:12 PM | Well, a friend of mine from Dnipropetrovsk (90
km from Zaporozhye)told me he has one.......I
will not be able to check untill the 20th of
this month as I have exams coming one after
another....
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| 1/4/2001 11:13 PM | does it read/write programs on magnetic cards?
|
| 1/4/2001 11:18 PM | I yet do not know...BUT,I have told you: My
business is finding collectables people abroad
are interested in and selling it to them.So
far I have never been unable to find something
I was interested in finding!At the moment
people through out most of the Ukraine are
looking for it...When I will be holding the
machine in my hands-I will give you all the
information you will inquire...
|
| 1/4/2001 11:19 PM | i'll put your photo up on the mk-47 page...
eternal fame!
|
| 1/4/2001 11:22 PM | Thanks:-) I do hope I will deserve it! I will
do my best...to do good for both of us...
BTW, we sure could excnange photos...I will
send you mine tomorrow..:-)
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| 1/4/2001 11:28 PM | http://www.spotlife.com/users/adavie/webcam/
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| 1/4/2001 11:35 PM | the 3 large green boxes behind me are full of
Russian calculators :))
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| 1/4/2001 11:37 PM | cool! I am working from the internet center at
the moment-I am going to see if it is possible
to make up something like that!
|
| 1/4/2001 11:37 PM | it's a $30 logitech webcam.
does a pretty good job.
i'm turning it off now, though.
|
| 1/4/2001 11:39 PM | ok,I will send you my image in 10 minutes,ok?
|
| 1/4/2001 11:40 PM | ok, sure. i'll get the mk-47 page ready for
the big day ;)
|
| 1/4/2001 11:40 PM | OK :-))
|
| 1/4/2001 11:41 PM | while i think of it, i know a few people
looking for russian computers, too.
especially UNIX ones (very old)
and home computers of russian/USSR design.
|
| 1/4/2001 11:42 PM | i'm trying to install a bit of software that
doesn't want to install under windows 2000
a while ago I read a command which makes
windows APPEAR to be an older OS. can't find
it. do you know it?
|
| 1/4/2001 11:42 PM | LIKE POISK 1 or poisk 2 maybe?
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| 1/4/2001 11:43 PM | nope,I haven't heard of it....
|
| 1/4/2001 11:44 PM | yes, exactly. poisk, etc.
|
| 1/4/2001 11:45 PM | I can get a bunch of those! Pretty quick
also...One thing is the price....for models 1
and 2
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| 1/4/2001 11:46 PM | the price must be negotiated. i will tell the
people i know about you. make a list of
machines you can find, and a description of
capabilities. i'll pass it on whenever
somebody asks. typically >$50/machine seems
reasonable. <$200 for most. depends on the
machine, etc.
|
| 1/4/2001 11:49 PM | what I meant is I only can get poisk 1 or 2...
how much are they without a monitor and
keyboard?
|
| 1/4/2001 11:49 PM | average for a nice condition...
|
| 1/4/2001 11:50 PM | i don't really know prices. i just know
people looking for russian computers. without
keyboard, probably not very attractive. don't
know about the monitor. probably OK without
monitor. no IBM PC clones wanted.
|
| 1/4/2001 11:52 PM | yep,I guessed about that:-) I mean I can get
them whole with russian monitors(electronika)
but it would not be profitable for me to ship
them abroad for that price...
|
| 1/4/2001 11:53 PM | probably not worth it. but the computers
themselves... probably.
|
| 1/4/2001 11:54 PM | yep....that is what I thought...we'll see
though...The main interest for me now is
MK-47..:-)
|
| 1/4/2001 11:55 PM | ok. AND anything military, of course!
|
| 1/4/2001 11:55 PM | Like what? you never gave me the details....
|
| 1/4/2001 11:57 PM | mk-95S, i've heard about
i know of a few military "target"
calculators... sort of in briefcases
i don't want anything illegal... just old
military stuff which isn't commercial
|
| 1/4/2001 11:58 PM | ok, I will keep that in mind as
well...thosetarget" calculators... are
probably of the same price as MK-47?:-)
|
| 1/4/2001 11:59 PM | oh, probably. find one first, then haggle
with me :)
|
| 1/5/2001 12:01 AM | Am not sure of that one...our military stuff
is not likely to negotiate with....:-))
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| 1/5/2001 12:02 AM | probably illegal to export anyway :))
|
| 1/5/2001 12:02 AM | i know of a couple of devices which aren't on
my site, as the finder has asked me not to -
out of fear she will get in trouble with the
security forces.
|
| 1/5/2001 12:02 AM | it depends:-))) there are ways...
|
| 1/5/2001 12:09 AM | what kind of devices?Models?would you be
interested in those?
|
| 1/5/2001 12:10 AM | the program I was looking for is called
"application compatibility tool". found it.
|
| 1/5/2001 12:11 AM | anything that is a calculator or
calculator/computer.
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| 1/5/2001 12:16 AM | OK,can't guarantee but I will try...I will
send you the pics tomorrow 'cause today I have
to leave now....
So Can I check my mail for the transfer
details tomorrow morning then?
|
| 1/5/2001 12:17 AM | yes. details will be there.
|
| 1/5/2001 12:18 AM | Good....also...gimmi the destination I will be
shipping to...I do not want to wait for too
long on that...
|
| 1/5/2001 12:19 AM | i need to contact my agents. give me a few
days on the address.
|
| 1/5/2001 12:22 AM | ok,I mean I would like to ship next week you
will have enough time right?
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| 1/5/2001 12:23 AM | yes. plenty of time.
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| 1/5/2001 12:24 AM | deal:-)
|
| 1/5/2001 12:24 AM | I will be waiting for the information then...
bye:-)
|
| 1/5/2001 12:24 AM | bye!
|
| 1/5/2001 12:25 AM | Why with the exclamation sign?:-)
|
| 1/5/2001 12:26 AM | it means i'm thinking of an mk-47 :)
|
| 1/5/2001 12:26 AM | Yeah......me too!
bye!
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| 1/5/2001 7:33 PM | Hi Andrew!
Guess you've finally made it?I am just going
to get the money...Now it is my turn on
fullfilling my part-as soon as you give me the
address I will send you the money...
|
| 1/5/2001 7:36 PM | I meant the...calculators.....I am kinda still
sleeping :-)))
|
| 1/5/2001 7:43 PM | let me know how you go, collecting the money.
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| 1/5/2001 9:58 PM | how am I supposed to understand that?
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| 1/5/2001 10:00 PM | BTW, I got the money:-)
thanks for trusting me.I hope I will be able
to proove I am worth that trust:-)
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| 1/5/2001 10:03 PM | also...could you at least tell me to what
country I will be shipping so I was able to
figure out the procedure and the price...One
more thing...do you want me to send you a
B-3-14m and MK-44 along with the mk-87s(just
like Christmas presents to you)?
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| 1/6/2001 1:34 AM | hi, how is it going?
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| 1/6/2001 1:35 AM | good. glad the money got there ok.
|
| 1/6/2001 1:37 AM | yep, me too...so would you like me to send you
the MK-44 and B3-14M along with the MK-47s as
a present to you?
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| 1/6/2001 1:39 AM | i appreciate the offer - thank you. but, it
is very expensive to post machines here, so I
really need to only get what I really really
need/want. If you could give me the dates on
the machines, that would help me, though.
Perhaps you should keep them handy, and if
anyone I know is looking for those machines, I
can point them to you - and you sell to them.
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| 1/6/2001 1:41 AM | I meant with MK-87s...you might have noticed I am kinda mesed up today... did not sleep much
and drank a lot yesterday(actually today
also)......
OK,I will give you the dates later... I do not
have them with me at the moment...
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| 1/6/2001 1:43 AM | ok, thanks. $120 is a lot of money for a
student, no?
i hope it helps you a lot. i will get you an
address for delivery in a day or two.
|
| 1/6/2001 1:44 AM | Hey, I just was told I will have an MK-47 on
the 9th or so...
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| 1/6/2001 1:44 AM | well, that's exciting... but how sure are you?
|
| 1/6/2001 1:46 AM | well I am just chatting with a friend of mine
over ICQ-she just told me-she says she is sure
and it is working!But.......I have learned not
to trust people on this one so.....just
informed you....
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| 1/6/2001 1:47 AM | ok, since you are chatting NOW... please ask a
few questions
1) what is the date and serial number?
2) what colour is the display digits?
3) does it have magnetic cards for program
storage
4) does it have a manual
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| 1/6/2001 1:48 AM | Look I will give you the information on the
9th or when I will have it...she does not have
it with her right now...nor at home-a friend
of hers does.
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| 1/6/2001 1:49 AM | ok. i understand.
it's just that i consider the mk-47 a bit
elusive, and the last one I *definitely* had
was destroyed in a fire in the house where it
was stored, BEFORE I got any of that
information. It was very very very very
frustrating. But, I will wait, as you ask. I
have to!
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| 1/6/2001 1:50 AM | yep-that is a good idea...
she says she is 90% sure...she will have it
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| 1/6/2001 1:51 AM | ok. now, we wait :)
i hope you're giving her a good finders fee.
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| 1/6/2001 1:52 AM | yep-that is one of the VERY imporatant factors
that influence my success a lot!:-)
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| 1/6/2001 1:53 AM | how many 'scouts' do you have?
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| 1/6/2001 1:54 AM | I guess I better will not count :-)))) People
in 9 cities of the Ukraine are looking...I am
sure they will find something-the only problem
is TIME(though I personally would prefer it be
done as soon as possible!) :-)
|
| 1/6/2001 1:56 AM | as well as $$$, i can also purchase/send items
to you. I have done this for some others (eg:
new electronic calculators from the West,
etc). Just something to keep in mind.
|
| 1/6/2001 1:56 AM | OK,well lets hope for te better then...Gotta
go .
see ya
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| 1/6/2001 1:58 AM | OH, thanks:-) I will keep that in mind...just
in case...I am sure you will have time..I am
planning on dealing with you for a longer
period than just one deal...
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| 1/6/2001 1:59 AM | good. :)
bye
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| 1/6/2001 1:59 AM | bye
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| 1/6/2001 9:12 AM | hey,g'morming to you!
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| 1/6/2001 9:52 AM | g'morning!
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| 1/6/2001 11:34 PM | hi......how is it going?
seems you do not like to sleep a lot?
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| 1/6/2001 11:35 PM | i have children... one day you will understand
:)
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| 1/6/2001 11:35 PM | yep....I hope so:-))) the sooner the better:-)
|
| 1/6/2001 11:36 PM | take your time. kids are great, but your life
changes.
do things first.
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| 1/6/2001 11:36 PM | that seems to be a good idea:-))btw,I hate
sleepind a lot as well:-)
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| 1/6/2001 11:37 PM | i hate NOT sleeping! i just don't get much
sleep sometimes
|
| 1/6/2001 11:37 PM | how many children do you have?
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| 1/6/2001 11:37 PM | two. caitie 6, cameron 4
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| 1/6/2001 11:37 PM | try
http://www.taswegian.com/TwoHeaded/tree.mpg
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| 1/6/2001 11:40 PM | cool! you have a nice son! he is pretty much
like you:-)
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| 1/6/2001 11:40 PM | others have said he's similar, so i believe
you :)
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| 1/6/2001 11:41 PM | sorry, I need to go...se ya later:-)
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| 1/7/2001 8:43 PM | Merry Christmas(eastern european style) :-)
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| 1/7/2001 8:45 PM | ah! well, merry eastern christmas back
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| 1/7/2001 8:47 PM | yep...btw I will be sending you a couple
pictures of mine in a few minutes:-)
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| 1/7/2001 8:51 PM | ok!
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| 1/7/2001 8:58 PM | are you there?I have sent you a file transfer
request...
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| 1/7/2001 9:00 PM | dinner time!
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| 1/7/2001 9:01 PM | OH,ok...lunch time over here:-)
never tried having a meal at the computer?a
bad habit af all ukrainian programmers:-))
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| 1/7/2001 9:14 PM | please, reply for one more file request:-)
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| 1/7/2001 9:30 PM | ok
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| 1/7/2001 9:31 PM | pic cam through fine. you look young :)
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| 1/7/2001 9:34 PM | I will be 19 February 8th:-) anyway,that
aspect does not influence my business much:-))
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| 1/7/2001 9:38 PM | fair enough :)
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| 1/7/2001 9:38 PM | does the second one describe me better?:-)
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| 1/7/2001 9:38 PM | which one do you want on the page with the
mk-47?
by the way, how did you find out about me?
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| 1/7/2001 9:40 PM | As soon as I find one I will send you another
pic of mine with the MK-47:-)
search engines:-)I've got pretty smart on
those as I told you I sell collectible
stuff(mostly to the US,though)
|
| 1/7/2001 9:42 PM | BTW, do you happen to know anybody who'd want
something collectible from Russia?does not
really matter what as long as they'd be
willing to pay for it:-)
|
| 1/7/2001 9:43 PM | i know people looking for computers, as I
said.
probably there are some who want women, too ;)
|
| 1/7/2001 9:44 PM | So what if I am willing to help? :-)))
|
| 1/7/2001 9:45 PM | if seriously,maybe something like
ukrainian/russian culture items or something
alike?
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| 1/7/2001 9:45 PM | actually, i see a fair few ads for russian
women.
they must be very common over there
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| 1/7/2001 9:46 PM | i am absolutely sure that space-related items
would be VERY popular
i also know that lots of people collect
radios... especially old old transistor ones.
|
| 1/7/2001 9:50 PM | yep, that is true...our women are looking to
merrying someone with the money.
I would be really grateful to you if you might
be willing to help me contact those people...
BTW,as for the space items...what kind?
and I might be able to get a lot of transistor
radios...
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| 1/7/2001 9:53 PM | anything technical related to space. of
course, space suits are hard to come by!
i guess anything unusual and definitely
related to the space program.
start collecting the radios. i expect they
should fetch $20-$50 each, depending on the
condition/model etc. The older ones are quite
stylish, so they're in demand (I think!)
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| 1/7/2001 9:56 PM | as for the radios-it is just easier for me to
go to the market and buy the necessary ones as
long as somebody would be willing to buy like
10 from me so I had profit after sharing the
shipment expnses:-)
I get interested in the space related Items-is
it possible to specify the topic some...?
|
| 1/7/2001 9:58 PM | any parts of spacesuits would be extremely
valuable.
anything related to astronauts would be pretty
valuable.
anything flown in space and actually used for
the job would be pretty valuable (eg: a
book/calculator/watch, etc)
i don't really know what sorts of things you
can find.
any parts of old spaceships would be pretty
amazingly valuable (panels, etc).
what sort of things can you find?
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| 1/7/2001 10:01 PM | I have not yet examined the possibilities
but...there is a factory in the ukraine not
too far from me that manufactures satellite
equipment...plus I will look in the other
sources..if I will know somebody would buy the
stuff I find...Do you think I should start
investigating this possibility?
|
| 1/7/2001 10:02 PM | absolutely. the older stuff is what people
want, though... 1960s, 70s, 80s
hey, i would LOVE a spacesuit!
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| 1/7/2001 10:03 PM | OK, If I find one,how much you would get it
for?:-)))
I need to know this to estimate the
possibilities...
|
| 1/7/2001 10:07 PM | honestly? i don't have the money. but if I
*did*, i'd pay something like many thousands
of dollars for one. i couldn't offer what
they're worth, but if I could buy one for
$7,500 I'd really jump at it :)
|
| 1/7/2001 10:09 PM | OK,let's put it that way: If I find a suit,
would you find a customer for me who'd get it
for USD 7000?
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| 1/7/2001 10:11 PM | a suit with hard hat/visor, gloves... ie: a
full "spacewalk-style" pressure suit? $7000?
absolutely, i'd buy it myself!
|
| 1/7/2001 10:16 PM | If that is serious I will emmideately start
looking!
|
| 1/7/2001 10:16 PM | you will need to give me a few weeks to come
up with $$$ though!!!!!!!!!!
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| 1/7/2001 10:18 PM | OK, we will try to do that-it is completely a
new field for me.But If I succeed-we might
establish something like a business-you will
buy from me and resell the stuff I find:-)
|
| 1/7/2001 10:23 PM | OK,I have to quit now...see ya tomorrow.
we'll see what I will be able to find:-)
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| 1/8/2001 11:51 PM | so is tomorrow the big day (9th)?
|
| 1/8/2001 11:53 PM | we will see:-)) I do hope so!
BTW, more likely I will find some of those
babes from the other sources:-)
also, I have got interested in that space
stuff idea:-)
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| 1/8/2001 11:54 PM | i thought you said 90%... now you seem
not-so-sure :)
i will be absolutely stunned if you find a
genuine spacesuit, believe me.
|
| 1/9/2001 12:03 AM | yesterday I did a minor research on the
subject-would not be that much of a problem
except for they might cost more than you have
offered to me:-)
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| 1/9/2001 12:03 AM | what is this plugin?
|
| 1/9/2001 12:04 AM | that would not surprise me. i told you they
were worth much more than I could afford :)
|
| 1/9/2001 12:04 AM | did you mean the PC call? I just pressed the
wromg nutton...sorry
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| 1/9/2001 12:04 AM | thats ok. you've done that twice now!
|
| 1/9/2001 12:06 AM | OK, another question: If I find a suit,that
would cost more-do you think you would be able
to find a buyer-for this you will have a part
of the profit?
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| 1/9/2001 12:08 AM | possibly. it would depend if the suit were in
australia or ukraine. if in australia, i am
sure I could find a buyer. if in ukraine,
people would be more suspicious and reluctant
to buy.
|
| 1/9/2001 12:12 AM | ok,the thing is If I find one-that would be in
Russia.Then I would have to buy it from
there...
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| 1/9/2001 12:14 AM | and you will probably find it is illegal to
export it :)
although spacesuits are exciting, i'd still
like calculators. i think if you find a
spacesuit you are very very clever.... i only
hope I can afford what you find - but I doubt
I will be able to :)
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| 1/9/2001 12:23 AM | no problem we will see how it turns
out...there will be nothing illigal in
exporting a used suit though...I hope to find
one that would be under USD 7000 so you might
be able to afford one:-))
|
| 1/9/2001 12:26 AM | well, that would be nice. not that I can
AFFORD 7000.... that's just what I hope to
perhaps be able to borrow :)
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| 1/9/2001 12:29 AM | OK...I guess I will take the idea
seriously....
well,hope to delight you with the machines
soon:-)
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| 1/9/2001 12:29 AM | :)
cya, then.
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| 1/9/2001 12:29 AM | bye!
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| 1/10/200 12:53 AM | mk-47 day?
check your email
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| 1/10/200 12:54 AM | I will check the e-mail:-)
yat haven't got a chance to talk with the lady
but I will for sure:-)
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| 1/10/200 1:16 AM | Hey...a bunch of BUll... again I hope will be
better soon regarding the Mk-
As for the shipping agency-Yes we have EMS,in
fact I have been using it not so long ago..
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| 1/10/200 1:17 AM | so, no MK-47?
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| 1/10/200 1:18 AM | not yet-says in a week cause her friend ill or
something...Just as you had warned me:-)
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| 1/10/200 1:18 AM | yes. the mk-47 is JINXED!
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| 1/10/200 1:19 AM | I would not say so:-)
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| 1/10/200 1:19 AM | this is about #4 reported, but eventually
turned out to be a false lead :)
don't worry, i'm smiling rather than
frowning... it is what i expected.
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| 1/10/200 1:20 AM | well will see:-)
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| 1/10/200 1:21 AM | :) one day... one will show up.
you found 2xmk-87... you obviously have good
finders
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| 1/10/200 1:22 AM | you will get proof later:-)nothing to boast
about at the moment:-)
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| 1/10/200 1:23 AM | i must 'hit the sack' - catch you later!
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| 1/10/200 1:24 AM | ok mee too...:-)
see ya:-)
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| 1/10/200 7:25 AM | Good morning to you!
hey do you seriously want the shipment be done
only by EMS?
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| 1/10/200 8:47 AM | i would like to see how much EMS costs. it is
reliable. other methods are not.
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| 1/10/200 9:35 PM | I will find out either today or tomorrow:I do
not think it is going to be cheap,though.I do
not know if it is cheaper to send stuff via
EMS to Russia than to the US but as far as I
know for shipping to the US the initial
service payment is USD 40 and every extra Kg
is about usd 4,5
|
| 1/10/200 9:35 PM | ok. please find out - then, at least, we will
know.
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| 1/10/200 9:38 PM | yep,I guess that would be a good idea.I
personally do not trust EMS:when passing
through the border they do a customs
check:open the parcel and stuff.2 last times I
used it,they did not pack the
glass(insulators) properly-they got broken on
the way and I lost USD 280 on that venture!
so...
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| 1/10/200 9:40 PM | mmh. i had 5 fragile calculators sent IN A
SACK (!!!) by a seller, and they got here in
perfect condition. I guess you just get
lucky, or not. If its not EMS, then I want to
use insured post. I have had several
uninsured items disappear (and one insured
one) :(
|
| 1/10/200 9:41 PM | yep...luck is not a good idea to rely upon
when doing business for a couple hundred
USD...
we will figure out something:-)that is for
sure:-)
|
| 1/10/200 9:42 PM | you will understand: i am not in a hurry. i
do many deals, and expect 6 month delays. So,
i would rather find the safest method than the
quickest.
|
| 1/10/200 9:43 PM | OK,I've got the point:we will do as
requested:-)
|
| 1/10/200 10:06 PM | Hey, would you by a chance like to buy a
statue of Lenin?:-)
it is made of aluminum with the lost wax
process-looks nice:-)
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| 1/10/200 10:07 PM | no, thank you. gagarin, maybe :)
|
| 1/10/200 10:08 PM | Any of your friends would? I could send you a
couple pictures now:-)
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| 1/10/200 10:10 PM | no, there's not much demand for lenin over
here ;)
i mainly know people into electronic/technical
items. I do know a guy who collects telegraph
keys (morse code thingies). If you find
really old brass curved keys, then he'd be
interested.
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| 1/10/200 10:11 PM | no problem:I was just curious:-)))
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| 1/10/200 11:46 PM | OK, I will find out about the EMS shipment
rates then...
see ya:-)
|
| 1/11/200 6:01 AM | hey,one thing: Do you need not working Mk-47s?
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| 1/11/200 8:34 AM | Yes, even not-working are OK.
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| 1/12/200 2:25 AM | OK, I will keep that in mind:-)
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| 1/12/200 10:20 PM | hi,sir,would you excuse me for the delay(I yet
was not able to find out about the EMS servise
rates)-I have been really busy lately-I have
exams every day for the last 3 days...I will
find out about it by wednesday for sure...
BTW, if an Mk-47 is not working will you buy
it for the same price?
|
| 1/12/200 10:22 PM | no problem on the delay.
mk-47 price... yes, for the first one. but i
would prefer a working version.
|
| 1/12/200 10:23 PM | i need the address of someone in Moscow. Do
you have a phone directory, or know how to
find an address, given a name?
|
| 1/12/200 10:23 PM | not that I am aware of that but if you want I
could try and find out...
|
| 1/12/200 10:25 PM | Denise Roza Moscow, SSSR 117870,
that's all the info I have
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| 1/12/200 10:27 PM | OK, I will see if it is possible to do
anything with that:-)
|
| 1/12/200 10:28 PM | thanks.
|
| 1/12/200 10:30 PM | no problem:-)BTW,it is a little hard to deal
with MK-47s,but I am sure we will finally find
something:-)
|
| 1/12/200 10:30 PM | :)
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| 1/12/200 10:31 PM | The one who seeks will find:-)
|
| 1/13/200 5:31 AM | Hi Davie,
one more question: would you be interested in
MK-95,working.The year of production 1970s or
something like that.And if you are
interested-how much would you get it for?
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| 1/13/200 8:06 AM | Morning to you.Did you read my message?
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| 1/13/200 8:19 AM | just did. tell me more about mk-95. yes,
very interested.
|
| 1/13/200 8:22 AM | Well...I have not seen it yet...my mom says
her boss has it and she was told the machine
has been in use since1970...if you are
interested I will get the machine
|
| 1/13/200 8:24 AM | it is without the letter S at the
end,though.Just an Mk-95 and she says this is
a big machine like the ones used for doing
accounting
|
| 1/13/200 8:27 AM | i'd like to know more about it before making
an offer. if it is very big, i will pay you
just for pictures.
|
| 1/13/200 8:29 AM | No,I did not mean to say it is VERY big...what
I meant is it is not a pocket
calculator...that's all...mom says it is about
the size of an MK-44...that is not hard to
ship, you know
|
| 1/13/200 8:30 AM | I understand. I'd like more information,
please, when you can. Was it a military
machine? What functions does it have... etc.
Also, how much do you want for it, etc.
|
| 1/13/200 8:35 AM | I do not think it is a military
machine...well...I mean I do not know if the
same model ever been used in the military
but....my mom works in a candy factory and the
machine is used by her department chief...
|
| 1/13/200 8:37 AM | So you must understand that this machine is
not only military if it is used in a factory
|
| 1/13/200 8:37 AM | gotta go. talk to you later. machine sounds
like something i am not familiar with, anyway,
so more information, PLEASE!
bye.
|
| 1/13/200 8:39 AM | Please,understand it willbe really hard for me
to get that machine involving all the security
and stuff I would like to know if it will be
worth it?
|
| 1/13/200 8:40 AM | i understand. as i said, please let me know
your asking price.
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| 1/13/200 8:42 AM | OK,lets do it that way: I will see how hard it
is for me to get it and then we will talk.I
would though want you to name what you think
is reasonable for it-and then I will see if it
is possible to arrange it for that price,OK?
|
| 1/13/200 8:43 AM | OK. my price depends on if it is desktop
(less) or handheld (more). if it is
scientific (more) or just plain 4-function
(less), if it works (more) or is broken
(less). if it has manual/box (more) or just
the calculator (less).
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| 1/13/200 8:44 AM | OK,just the calculator,works fine,more then
4-function but probably designed for
accounting.
Now what is the difference between a desktop
and a handheld?
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| 1/13/200 8:45 AM | a 220V connector 'hardwired' into a machine
makes it a desktop. if it ususally runs only
on batteries, it is a handheld. also, the
size (!) if you carry it in your hand to do
your calculations, it's handheld :)
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| 1/13/200 8:47 AM | OK,I am not sure if it works on batteries or
not but my mom says it is the size of mk-44
and has the 220 pluging...so looks like a
desktop...it is not designed for walking with
it-that is for sure:-)
so?(approximate $$)
|
| 1/13/200 8:51 AM | $50-$75
|
| 1/13/200 8:54 AM | $100 would be more desirable...
|
| 1/13/200 8:55 AM | of course, but i simply can't afford to keep
paying $100 for machines.
at worst i'll pay you for pictures.
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| 1/13/200 8:57 AM | OK, another proposal...USD 100 and the USD30
you were to wire me with the next shipment you
will wire to me when I find something more
promising to you...
what do you say?
|
| 1/13/200 8:59 AM | let me think about it. i HAVE to go. talk to
you later.
|
| 1/13/200 9:00 AM | ok,please,try to do that today as I need t
know the details earlier,ok?
Bye
|
| 1/13/200 9:42 PM | have you so far been ablle to come up with a
certain desicion?:-)
|
| 1/13/200 9:44 PM | i didn't quite understand your last offer re:
$100 and $30
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| 1/13/200 9:46 PM | remember from our last deal- you said you will
pay USD 120 and will wire USD 30 to me later
with a bigger shipment?
What I meant is we will put off the $30 for
the next machines I will find.
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| 1/13/200 9:48 PM | yes, i remember the $30 (of course!)
i really would like to know more about the
mk-95 first, that's all i'm saying. as i said
$100 is way over what I usually pay. The
MK-87 were special, and I went $75/ea for
those.
|
| 1/13/200 9:49 PM | OK...what else besides the information I have
given you would you like to know?
|
| 1/13/200 9:50 PM | is a picture possible?
|
| 1/13/200 9:53 PM | yep...later though....of course I will provide
you with the picture but it seems before I
make the picture I have to know you are
interested...so when I start talking abou it
with my mom's boss I knew I will get it in the
result
|
| 1/13/200 9:54 PM | i'm definitely interested in MK-95 - as I
said, my price is $50-$75 guaranteed.
you asked for $100, and at that I'm kind of
only wanting pictures :)
|
| 1/13/200 9:55 PM | You mean you will not get it for that price?
|
| 1/13/200 9:55 PM | for $100? probably not, it is too expensive
for me.
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| 1/13/200 9:57 PM | Ok, 90+the USD 30?
|
| 1/13/200 9:57 PM | you get the US$30 no matter what, so that
doesn't come in to it. I add $30 to whatever
we agree on. I'll give you $20 for good
pictures of the machine, how about that?
|
| 1/13/200 10:00 PM | OK, USD 80 for the machine? I hope fully can
arrange it for that price...
|
| 1/13/200 10:01 PM | well, i expect you could buy it for $5-10
actually.
let me think about it for a few days.
|
| 1/13/200 10:03 PM | Seriously,I yet do not know how much I will be
able to buy it for.What I thought about is I
will pay USD 10 to the person+USD 5 for the
new calculator-substitute(it has to be
good)...When do you think you will come up
with the desicion?
|
| 1/13/200 10:04 PM | well, i really should await arrival of
MK-87... this is the safest thing to do.
although you seem pretty trustworthy, I've
been bitten before. we need to build up a
partnership bit by bit, extending the trust a
bit more each time.
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| 1/13/200 10:07 PM | Yep...I guess you are right but what I thought
about is it would be REALLY good if I was able
to send you the MK-95 together with MK-87s in
one shipment...I think i will be able to get
the machine within one week-that is enough
time for us to deside about the method of
shipment oif the MK-87s...
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| 1/13/200 10:09 PM | if you buy the mk-95, and we agree on $20 for
the pictures NO MATTER WHAT, then you are $5
(approx) better off already. i have little
risk - and once we have the pictures we can
agree on a price. if we can't agree, you can
sell it to someone else.
seems the best way to go... if we DO agree,
then you can include all in the one package.
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| 1/13/200 10:12 PM | well.....Look
1) I am looking for the most profit I could
derive from the business no matter if it is an
easier or a harder one
2)I will get the machine only if I WILL KNOW
you will buy it from me because it will be
HARD
Thus I would prefer to clear the situation
now...
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| 1/13/200 10:13 PM | BUT if you deside to buy it now you of course
will get pictures first!
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| 1/13/200 10:13 PM | then, with regrets, no thank you.
it is too expensive. MK-87 were special
because there were very few made.
i cannot afford so much for these machines.
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| 1/13/200 10:14 PM | OK, what is the MOST you will pay for it?
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| 1/13/200 10:17 PM | $75 is the most, but i'd like to at least have
the manual for that.
$70 without the manual
$50 if it doesn't work.
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| 1/13/200 10:20 PM | OK,look...my price is USD75 without the
manual...otherwise I will not even be able to
get the pictures because It will be just too
hard to get through all that without finally
getting the machine-impossible to get the
camera through the security...
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| 1/13/200 10:21 PM | you drive too hard a bargain, my friend.
let's skip this one.
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| 1/13/200 10:26 PM | please,do not think bad of me...I just want
you to understand that it really is impossible
othewise as I said If you get it I will sign a
document with tye higher authorities of the
factory for the change of the calculator-so it
becomes legal to get it out of the
factory...if I do not-then it is impossible to
take the machine out of the territory to make
pictures nor I would be allowed to bring in a
camera...so...
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| 1/13/200 10:27 PM | that's ok. negotiation is all part of
collecting/selling. this one seems a little
too difficult. i'll be happy to send you a
replacement calculator before you purchase, if
THAT is the problem.
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| 1/13/200 10:31 PM | well it is not that much of that stuff-the
main problem is my nervs-just imagine me
coming to a department execitive of a factory
where 3000 people work and telling him I need
him to legally sign off some calculator within
one of his departments...that is not even
funny-that is why I asked that much...
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| 1/13/200 10:33 PM | i understand that; very daring.
however, you are in a hurry and I am not. the
machine will still be there in 6 months,
probably. for me, i would rather wait. if
the price was excellent, then i'd take it.
the price is way over my usual purchases,
though, so this is why i'm reluctant.
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| 1/13/200 10:34 PM | Look,this time we are negotiating some 5 bucks
which I will get a snifter of Martini for in
alocal cafe to calm my nervs down some:-))
|
| 1/13/200 10:35 PM | that's true, but why the hurry? let's wait a
month or two.
|
| 1/13/200 10:36 PM | the hurry is 'cause I need to earn enough
money to pay for my tuition which I will have
to do in a week........
|
| 1/13/200 10:38 PM | you sound like a great finder of things, and i
would love you to find more things for me.
but, I really have VERY little money. i am
not the solution to your money problems; I
can definitely provide a long-term stream of
money for you, for interesting calculators.
but the REALLY important thing to me is that
the MK-87 have not been sent yet, and i think
that is an essential first step in a long-term
relationship
|
| 1/13/200 10:41 PM | yep you sound reasonable....but how on earth
can I proove to you I will REALLY send you the
MK-87s along with the Mk-95 if I am able to
get it?Do you know any methods for that?
|
| 1/13/200 10:42 PM | the problem is, you are pushing for money NOW,
and you are pushing for more than i am
prepared to pay. so, i don't really think
there's a solution to that. i have to say "no
thank you" to this particular machine.
|
| 1/13/200 10:45 PM | OK,well...what is your proposal then? USD 70
for this machine + USD 30 from the last time?
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| 1/13/200 10:47 PM | US$30 was on arrival of MK-87 machines,
correct? That has to wait till arrival.
Proposal is US$70 for this machine, with $50
up-front and $20 on arrival.
If MK-87 units and MK-95 arrive together,
payments would be $50 now + $50 on arrival.
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| 1/13/200 10:51 PM | Deal: I will then see if I am able to get the
MK-95 and If I am -upon receiving the pictures
from me-you will wire me USD 50,upon receiving
the calculators you will wire me the remaining
USD 50,correct?
OK,should I wire all the 3 machines to that
address in Belarus?
And one more question: What if(as I suspect
might happen) the shipment cost with EMS will
way too much exceed the USD 10?
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| 1/13/200 10:54 PM | yes, and yes.
if EMS is too expensive, we will try another
way.
it's in your interest for them to arrive,
anyway. i will trust your method, whichever
it is.
|
| 1/13/200 10:57 PM | Yep....I guess you are right as for the last
point! So we will see.
OK:I will try to get the machine by wednesday
then,and see about the EMS costs as well.If I
am able to send you the pictures by thrursday
will you be able to wire me the first part of
the funds emmediately?
|
| 1/13/200 11:00 PM | yes.
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| 1/13/200 11:01 PM | deal:-)
I will keep you posted then...
bye:-)
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| 1/13/200 11:05 PM | bye!
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| 1/14/200 9:10 AM | g'morning tp you!
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| 1/14/200 9:18 AM | see ya later:-)
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| 1/16/200 10:38 PM | Hi, how are you?
it is a little harder to get the MK-95 than I
had thought-hopefully I will be able to get it
by the end of the week...
|
| 1/16/200 10:39 PM | that's ok. i'm not in a hurry, as you should
know by now :)
any information (date?) you can provide
beforehand, though, would be great.
|
| 1/16/200 10:41 PM | When I get it- you'll get all the necessary
information...
all I know for now is that is of a white color
and is the size of an MK-44..
|
| 1/16/200 10:41 PM | what if it isn't a MK-95!
|
| 1/16/200 10:42 PM | well,I guess my mom and her superior can
read...:-)))
|
| 1/16/200 10:43 PM | one would hope so :)
|
| 1/16/200 10:44 PM | yep...I am 100% sure though that is the very
model we need...it just is that it will be
damned hard to get it.......
|
| 1/16/200 10:44 PM | if you can't get it, then photos will be
possible i hope.
|
| 1/16/200 10:46 PM | I am sure I have already expalined you that if
I am not able to get it then the photos will
not be pssible as I just will not be allowed
to bring the camera within the territory of
the factory...
|
| 1/16/200 10:46 PM | oh yes, i forgot. sorry.
|
| 1/16/200 10:48 PM | no problem...that is why I am trying hard to
work that one out so I finally had it...
|
| 1/16/200 10:48 PM | what sort of factory is it?
|
| 1/16/200 10:50 PM | just a candy factory-nothing special...but in
the former USSR the system is we got a very
nice security in all the factories so...
|
| 1/16/200 10:50 PM | it is very foreign to me :)
|
| 1/16/200 10:52 PM | yeah,guess so...I personally am damned tired
of all that crappy security that would kinda
act like a preservig factor...but from the
other side...dealing well with the help of the
money.......
|
| 1/16/200 10:53 PM | so, assuming you can't buy the machine...
could you borrow it for making photos?
|
| 1/16/200 10:54 PM | the thing is it is a property of the factory,
not my mom's superior so...
let's better assume I will get it...( I really
hope so...) I think I will have the details by
the end of the week...
|
| 1/16/200 10:54 PM | ok. i wait.
|
| 1/16/200 10:55 PM | yep... you are already used to it...I am
getting too...:-)))
|
| 1/16/200 10:57 PM | when are my spacesuits arriving ;)
|
| 1/16/200 11:01 PM | well that is even a harder question...it is
not dealed with spontaneously...I am working
on that-for sure I will not forget about such
an opporunity:-)))It's just I am having exams
at the moment so...kinda short on time...
|
| 1/16/200 11:02 PM | exams are more important :)
|
| 1/16/200 11:03 PM | hey, by the way do you think someone in
australia would be interested in Russian or
Ukrainian antiques? Like maybe religious
items(icons) or anything antique?
Not that exams are more important but... you
know:-)
|
| 1/16/200 11:04 PM | possibly, but i know very little about
religious antiques.
|
| 1/16/200 11:05 PM | any possibility to find out?Might be a very
good business also:-)
|
| 1/16/200 11:06 PM | send me some pictures.
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| 1/16/200 11:08 PM | How about you find out what people are
interested in and I then will make pictures of
the items, so you could envestigate the market
for that stuff...
cause you see,over here IT IS POSSIBLE TO BUY
EVERYTHING pretty cheap....We first need to
know what the demand in your country is for
|
| 1/16/200 11:09 PM | for religious items, as i said, i have NO idea
and no idea who to ask.
what abot LED watches.... can you find any of
those?
|
| 1/16/200 11:10 PM | what is led watches? electronic ones or what?
|
| 1/16/200 11:12 PM | very early digital ones (red 7-segment
displays). late 1970 - early 1980
|
| 1/16/200 11:13 PM | i am not sure if the displays were red but
that probably is possible.Why?
are they of any good price back there?
|
| 1/16/200 11:14 PM | yes, i think they would sell well. NOT LCD,
though (liquid crystal). They must be bright
shiny red (or green) digits
how about calculator-watches?
|
| 1/16/200 11:19 PM | not russian though...we here have only goreign
calculator watches...like casio and stuff...
how about LED clocks? I now for sure I can get
those...
|
| 1/16/200 11:19 PM | no, sorry. only watches are popular.
|
| 1/16/200 11:20 PM | ok, how much would you get them from me for?
|
| 1/16/200 11:22 PM | a genuine soviet LED watch? $50?
|
| 1/16/200 11:23 PM | ok,guess when I see it from the file you are
sending to me I will tell you if I am able to
get those...I am pretty sure I am but need to
see it first:-)
|
| 1/16/200 11:24 PM | http://www.taswegian.com/TwoHeaded/led.jpg
my watch!
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| 1/16/200 11:28 PM | Ok,I have seen those...Cant say they are
pretty common over here but I think I will be
able to help you with them.
Will you get 4 from me if I find 4? for USD 50
each?
|
| 1/16/200 11:29 PM | let's try one at a time, huh? i can't afford
4
if you want to go partnership on these, i'll
sell them and split the profit/cost
|
| 1/16/200 11:31 PM | I will see how hard it is to find them here
and then we will talk,ok?
for now,though,if I get one,will you buy it
emmediately?
and one more question:were these watches of
only one model/brand or there might exist
others?
|
| 1/16/200 11:31 PM | i have no idea how many models/brands were
made in soviet union.
i'm not interested in western ones - i can
find many of those. anything of russian/cccp
origin is very interesting, and i will buy
one.
|
| 1/16/200 11:34 PM | OK,deal...I will talk with people about this
then...Do you think(if it is possible to find
here many of those) if we do partnership you
will be able to sell like 10?
|
| 1/16/200 11:34 PM | yes.
|
| 1/16/200 11:36 PM | ok,deal...ina few days i WILL be able to tell
you if it is possible,ok?
|
| 1/16/200 11:37 PM | yes.
now, old video games. can you find them?
|
| 1/16/200 11:38 PM | Like for what?computer what kind?
|
| 1/16/200 11:38 PM | ones which have cartridges (games) you plug
in.
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| 1/16/200 11:40 PM | yeah,I get that but for what kind of computer?
|
| 1/16/200 11:41 PM | for 'console' video game machines. old ones.
you tell me what you can find.
|
| 1/16/200 11:42 PM | OK, I will keep that in mind also...which
years?
also anything else you'd want me to look for?
|
| 1/16/200 11:43 PM | years: 1970s... 1980s.
especially any atari clones. but also any
cccp made game machines. NOT computers...
just special game machines which took
cartridges and plugged into TV.
i'm thinking what else :)
|
| 1/16/200 11:44 PM | are you sure there were some?
|
| 1/16/200 11:44 PM | no. well, i know of a recent one... but i
haven't seen any.
|
| 1/16/200 11:46 PM | any moels I could specify while doing a
search?
|
| 1/16/200 11:47 PM | not really, but i have a VERY poor picture of
one
|
| 1/16/200 11:48 PM | could you provide me with it- that might
help...
also anything else you can think of would be
great:-)
|
| 1/16/200 11:51 PM | http://www.taswegian.com/TwoHeaded/cart.jpg
|
| 1/16/200 11:51 PM | this is just an interesting handheld.
i want console (plug into TV) ones mostly,
though.
|
| 1/16/200 11:53 PM | ok,I will see what it is possible to do with
that...
|
| 1/16/200 11:53 PM | anything with plug-in game cartridges is a
good description
|
| 1/16/200 11:54 PM | ok, I get the idea...anything else you are
interested in?
|
| 1/16/200 11:54 PM | old radios
|
| 1/16/200 11:54 PM | like what?
|
| 1/16/200 11:55 PM | http://home.onego.ru/~vitalybr/SETS/zvez_l.htm
this is a beautiful machine :)
|
| 1/16/200 11:59 PM | and how much would be something of the kind?It
is very heavy,you know...
|
| 1/16/200 11:59 PM | i have no idea, actually.
|
| 1/17/200 12:01 AM | ok,...I need to go...
I will keep looking for all this stuff.If you
later remember you are interested in something
else,please, do not hesitate to tell me..OK?
See ya
|
| 1/17/200 12:01 AM | bye
|
| 1/17/200 9:33 PM | Hi Andrew!
as for the LED watch- is it the one that shows
time when you press the button?
Is the name of the brand 'Pulsar'?
|
| 1/17/200 9:34 PM | pulsar is ONE brand. yes, shows the time when
you press the button.
but I'm looking for soviet models. Pulsar is
western. MY LED watch is "Hughes Aircraft",
not Pulsar.
|
| 1/17/200 9:35 PM | I was told "pulsar" is made in Moscow....
|
| 1/17/200 9:36 PM | pulsar is a well known western brand. perhaps
there is another pulsar made in moscow. does
it have cyrillic instructions/writing?
|
| 1/17/200 9:37 PM | I have not seen one but a lady who told me
this says she's got one but it is broken or
something..
|
| 1/17/200 9:39 PM | pity it doesn't work
|
| 1/17/200 9:40 PM | you do not need broken ones, do you?
|
| 1/17/200 9:41 PM | it depends how broken. smashed, no. just
"not working" could be battery problems.
depends on the watch and how cute it looks :)
|
| 1/17/200 9:42 PM | she says almost new...not battery problems
though, somehting with mycrochip...
|
| 1/17/200 9:42 PM | that's a shame. if it has cyrillic
instructions or writing (is "pulsar" in
cyrillic on the watch?) then i might be
interested. not $50 though. maybe $25.
|
| 1/17/200 9:44 PM | she says it is russian...I will see it
tomorrow...
BTW she's an electronic watch repair
specialist...she says the only problem for
fixing it is the lack of a spare microchip....
|
| 1/17/200 9:45 PM | welllll.... they're not exactly easy to
find!!!!!
|
| 1/17/200 9:47 PM | yep... so if she's unable to fix it, should I
get it or not?
|
| 1/17/200 9:47 PM | if it is cyrillic, yes. but i'm offering $25
|
| 1/17/200 9:48 PM | if it is in a 'like new' condition maybe $ 30?
|
| 1/17/200 9:52 PM | Hey, I am waiting...:-))
|
| 1/17/200 9:53 PM | NO, because a non-working LED watch is really
just a lump of metal :)
|
| 1/17/200 9:56 PM | OK, if it is a russian watch and non
fixable-USD 25 firm?
|
| 1/17/200 9:56 PM | yep
|
| 1/17/200 9:56 PM | Also if I will be able to get it fixed you
will pay USD 50,right?
|
| 1/17/200 9:56 PM | yep
|
| 1/17/200 9:57 PM | deal...I will see what she brings to me
tomorrow...
|
| 1/17/200 9:58 PM | ok. i'd like pictures if you can do that,
too... can't wait to see a russian LED watch
|
| 1/17/200 10:12 PM | come on,Andrew:-)
I really do not have much time today-it would
be good to talk business today with you:-)
|
| 1/17/200 10:12 PM | i didn't get a message from you? we last
agreed on $50 for a working led, $25 for
non-working.
|
| 1/17/200 10:14 PM | yep.....how about this part?
, will you be able to send me the USD 25+30
emmediately?
|
| 1/17/200 10:14 PM | aren't we awaiting arrival of mk-87 first?
|
| 1/17/200 10:15 PM | well...:-)) it'd be cool if I could stuff the
watch(if it is the one you need) into the same
parcel...
|
| 1/17/200 10:16 PM | yes, but there could be many other things you
might find and which would also be great in
the first parcel. but let's just stick to the
plan and have parcel #1 delivered, then worry
about future parcels later.
|
| 1/17/200 10:22 PM | OK, how will we arrange all that then:
1) I will wait till the end of this week
before sending you the parcel with MK-87s to
see if I am able to get the MK-95 as well so I
will be able to make the shipment Monday,I
think
|
| 1/17/200 10:22 PM | ok. mk-95 can wait for parcel 2, though.
since there now WILL be a parcel 2
|
| 1/17/200 10:23 PM | 2) after I send you the parcel and it
arrives-we can deal on the watch part and
stuff...but...look: you are paying me USD 25
for the watch,right?I will pay
USD 10 for the next shipment+USD 5 for the
watch...Does not result in much profit,does
it?That is why I wanted it all be done in one
time...
|
| 1/17/200 10:24 PM | we can combine several things tOgether in
package #2, ok?
|
| 1/17/200 10:25 PM | OK, no problem...
gotta go now...
see ya
|
| 1/17/200 10:31 PM | I'll tell you when I am able to do the firt
shipment,ok?
after that we will talk about the other stuff
|
| 1/17/200 10:31 PM | no worries. see ya later :)
|
| 1/17/200 10:36 PM | bye
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| 1/18/200 9:41 PM | ina couple hours I will see if I am able to
get the watch...
BTW, forget about the MK-95,didn't work out to
get it...
|
| 1/18/200 9:44 PM | thats a real shame.
|
| 1/18/200 9:45 PM | yep.......I have been upset all day:-(((
hopefully doesn't turn out the same way with
the watch...
|
| 1/18/200 9:46 PM | perhaps one day just a picture of mk-95 might
be possible. maybe if I wrote a letter for
you to give to the boss of the factory?
|
| 1/18/200 9:47 PM | would not help...anyway I will try again,later
though...maybe in a month or two...
|
| 1/21/200 9:29 PM | Hi, how is it going?
|
| 1/21/200 9:31 PM | hi |
| . things are ok.
|
| 1/21/200 9:34 PM | yeah, that is good:-)
Andrew, do you think you could wait for a
couple more weeks untill I send the parcel?The
thing is I am registering a firm over here and
running out of money,so I will have to wait
untill my money arrive in 2 weeks...
|
| 1/21/200 9:36 PM | yes, ok.
|
| 1/21/200 9:39 PM | thank you so much...I hate it when I am not
able to fulfill my duties in time....but right
now I am going through the extraordinary
circumstances...
BTW,my firm will be doing web-design and
development,databases and so on... programming
in general as I already told you...
|
| 1/21/200 9:39 PM | good luck :)
|
| 1/21/200 9:40 PM | thanks...:-))
do you think there might be contractors in
Australia we could sub with?
|
| 1/21/200 9:41 PM | possibly, but i don't know them.
|
| 1/21/200 9:42 PM | think you in the future might be interested in
finding ones so that we paid you percentage of
our payment?
|
| 1/21/200 9:43 PM | well, not really.... this is the sort of work
i do, too... :)
|
| 1/21/200 9:47 PM | yeah,I know...that is actually why I poped up
this offer to you...I will have MANY people,
we will have BIG potential: that means if we
find a person in need of a big project being
done...you will have your monthly salary
without having done any work...We will
compensate you handsomely...so...it's up to
you...
|
| 1/21/200 9:48 PM | i understand. thanks for the offer. if i
hear of anything, i'll think of you :)
|
| 1/21/200 9:51 PM | No, well I am talking seriously... in less
than a month we will be a registered
entity...remember,the advantage for your
country fellows is that we will do the
programming cheaper...50% savings for your
firms-that is something worth thinking
about:-))
plus...you might be our representative in our
office in Australia in future...Or our
subcontractor...If you are up to it...doesn't
that idea grab you?!?!:-))
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| 1/21/200 9:52 PM | i'd have to see samples of your work... just
how good are you :)
|
| 1/21/200 9:55 PM | No problem...even at present ,before we are
organized we can provide you with the
samples...
What exactly were you thinking when reffering
to the samples?
we either could accomplish some test work you
might be willing to provide us with...or...do
you want to see some accomplished projects?
what kind?Maybe some details from your side
would help:-))
|
| 1/21/200 9:56 PM | any finished projects. i'm more interested in
the coding style and documentation.
|
| 1/21/200 10:01 PM | try this: ********)
This is the project completely done by one of
my programmers...or are you interested in
something different?
|
| 1/21/200 10:03 PM | if i were to undertake a project such as this,
what would be more important to me is not WHAT
is done, but how it is done. So, the actual
source code, and especially documentation, are
what I consider the most important things.
As for the graphical effect on that page; I
have seen it elsewhere... I have another page
bookmarked with the same code. You must
remember, too, neither I nor many people in
Australia can read cyrillic very well :)
|
| 1/21/200 10:12 PM | OK, have you ever thought of anything like
this:"all the sources are being parsed before
posting the info to the internet - no authors
copyrights, no comments or smth is left"
:-)
as for the cyrillic-I guess you might believe
us we can do the same in English as well:-))
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| 1/21/200 10:13 PM | What you could do is you might find us some
test work for a little payment...
you WILL see what we are up to ....and the
codes and documentation as well...
|
| 1/21/200 10:13 PM | i'll keep my eye open. this would be a lot of
work... managing programmers in another
country, though. i doubt many will be
interested.
|
| 1/21/200 10:16 PM | look, all you need is a production manager
from your side.
we will have the one from ours as well...
the key point here that will attract interest
is the project value...over here it is 50%
less. so...
|
| 1/21/200 10:18 PM | AND you will need not to be managing
programmers over here.... that is my
manager's business... your business IS TO GIVE
us a clear task...
|
| 1/21/200 10:21 PM | so...what do you think?
|
| 1/21/200 10:24 PM | honestly, i think that whoever does it over
here needs to manage. i'm not particularly
interested in that, and I also think not many
companies will. i'll keep my eyes/ears open,
though, for you.
|
| 1/21/200 10:27 PM | thanks:-)
anyway....I guess you should consider this
idea for a little longer....working with us I
mean...Might be really profitable for you in
the future...if it will be possible from your
side to get your firms interested....we 'd
need an office and reprasentative in
Australia...that would be YOU...
|
| 1/21/200 10:28 PM | i think the idea is interesting. but i think
it would take far more time than either you
think, or I have available.
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| 1/21/200 10:32 PM | well....still....it is WORTH it....
just keep in mind we will be a firm ready to
accomlish work in less than a month... so....
I have to go now... will come back to
discussing this subject later if you want...
Personally I think,If you take this
seriously...there is nothing impossible in
this....you just need a desire....we from our
side will have the necessary potential....
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| 1/21/200 10:33 PM | i'll think about it, OK. that's all i can
promise.
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| 1/21/200 10:34 PM | good..well Talk to you Monday,then...
see ya:-)
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| 1/21/200 10:34 PM | bye
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| 1/23/200 9:37 PM | Hi:-)
vame up with any desicion so far?:-)
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| 1/23/200 9:37 PM | hi:-)
have you come up with any desicion so far?
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| 1/23/200 9:39 PM | not really interested, sorry.
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| 1/23/200 9:41 PM | you sure? we over here came up with some
mathematics modeling and planning on implying
the project into the future website design-an
interesting thing:-)
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| 1/23/200 9:51 PM | BTW, business is something to be always
interested in:-))
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| 1/23/200 9:51 PM | i wish you luck, but this one is not for me.
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| 1/23/200 9:54 PM | ok...noproblem..
could you give me any reasons though?just
interested for the future:-))
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| 1/23/200 9:56 PM | reasons:
i think the management would be a
significantly large amount of work for me, as
any companies here would expect the local
contact to be accountable.
also, it is difficult to rely on a project
running successfully when it is in another
country and there's no way other than
email/phone to correct things
finally, i am very particular about coding
style and development techniques - i'd be
horrible to work with :)
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| 1/23/200 10:03 PM | Well, that is for the cones....have you ever
thought of the pros?
at the moment you are a programmer...in the
near future you might be running a joint
venture with us and working for yourself,not
for somebody.....
also, we will be able to do a test work for
you, before you agree on working with us-so
you will see what we can do...if the task is
clear there will be not much needing
correction...as for the big projects-there
also exists such a facility as an airplane for
the better communication:-)
and, I would not worry much on working with
you-I am sure we would find the best way of
working together that would satisfy both our
sides:-)
so...
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| 1/23/200 10:05 PM | i understand.
but i enjoy programming. i have managed
projects, and i do NOT enjoy doing that.
i would rather program.
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| 1/23/200 10:07 PM | well...I hate talking people into something
that is GOOD for them when they do not care
about it:-)))
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| 1/23/200 10:16 PM | ok...gotta go...... there is still about a
month for you to think of the idea...hope you
come to the right desicion...:-)
see ya...
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| 1/25/200 9:44 PM | Hi, Andrew:-)
would you,please, give me an information on
which kinds of programming services of the
following are in the moost demand in Australia
at present:
1)Design and Development of online, database
oriented application systems with
client/server technology;
2)Design,development and deployment of web
based applications on
internet/intranet,integration of web
applications with existing systems to ensure
integrity between both the systems;
3)Migration,enhancement and maintenance of
existing applications;
4)Product development, maintenance and
upgadation;
5)Design, development and support of web sites
and pages.
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| 1/25/200 10:33 PM | look, i honestly have NO idea about this.
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| 1/29/200 3:08 AM | Andrew,I have one more of the MK-87s,
new,documents,box included,will you be
interested in purchasing it?
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| 1/29/200 11:24 PM | yes, of course
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| 1/29/200 11:24 PM | OK,same price?
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| 1/29/200 11:25 PM | that was $75?
i'm pretty hard up for money. can you hold it
till the others are delivered?
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| 1/29/200 11:29 PM | look,Davie,I am kinda in a big problems at the
moment...so here is what I propose to do:I
wish of course,you first sent me the money
again but I also understand that we first need
to get a complete deal from both our sides so
you could trust me...
OK,the thing is I really need money fast,so,
how about I send all the 3 machines to your
contact in Belarus tomorrow and then
you,emmediately upon her confirming to you the
arrival(I think that should not take more then
3 days)n wire me the USD 75 plus USD 30 from
the last batch via western union?
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| 1/29/200 11:30 PM | i think i can manage that. any news on the
watch?
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| 1/29/200 11:32 PM | Sorry,I yet have not been able to check on
that yet...I just got done with the exams
today...plus I am at the process of
registering a firm as I told you...I think I
will be able to devote some time for looking
this week,ok?
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| 1/29/200 11:33 PM | sure. ok.
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| 1/29/200 11:34 PM | Good..does your contact have e-mail?So she
could inform you upon receiving the machines?
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| 1/29/200 11:34 PM | contact is a friend of my agent. she will
call him, he will email me. i will let them
know it is URGENT that I am informed
immediately on receipt of any package.
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| 1/29/200 11:36 PM | ok,thanx a lot:-) gotta go now...
so far I think I will have everything ready
for tomorrow to send the machines to your
contact.I will inform you when I send the
machines.
Bye:-)
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| 1/29/200 11:37 PM | ok. bye
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| 1/30/200 2:33 AM | Seems you are through a lot of sleepless
nights recently:-)
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| 1/30/200 2:33 AM | i'm selling things on eBay - waiting for
auctions to end to see how much I get
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| 1/30/200 2:34 AM | cool:-) what are you selling?
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| 1/30/200 2:35 AM | a whole bunch of stuff so I can pay russian
and ukranian agents :))
hewlett-packard calculators, slide rules,
russian game&watch items, my old computer
system (PII/266), and a MK-90
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| 1/30/200 2:37 AM | how much do you sell the P2/266 for?
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| 1/30/200 2:38 AM | an amazing US$101 (it ends in 3 minutes)
it's an old motherboard, processor, +16MB EDO
ram
i would have been happy with about $30
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| 1/30/200 2:40 AM | too bad it's without monitor:-)I would have
got it:-))
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| 1/30/200 2:40 AM | it doesn't even have a case!
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| 1/30/200 2:42 AM | yeah, then it's worth the money:-)
means you will be reach to pay your russian
and ukrainian agents:-))
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| 1/30/200 2:43 AM | ha! i have to send $625 tomorrow :( I am
most definitely short of $$$
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| 1/30/200 2:45 AM | wow, somebody has to be a lucky supplyer:-)
what is such an expensive thing you will be
sending the whole bunch of money for?:-)maybe
I will be able to find something of the kind
also:-))
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| 1/30/200 2:46 AM | ok, my auctions ended... i am now off to bed.
goodnight!
money is to pay a partner. he and i find
things in Russia, he buys them and posts them
to me. then I sell them, and we split the
PROFIT 50/50. I have to pay the $$ for
purchase and postage out of the sale amount.
So, $625 is accumulated costs for purchase,
postage and 50% of profits in sales over about
6 months period. I just spent all his money,
so need to sell my things to get $$!
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| 1/30/200 2:47 AM | good luck!:-)))
bye
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| 1/30/200 8:15 PM | Hi Sir,
just getting ready to go to the post office to
mail the machines
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| 1/30/200 8:22 PM | thanks
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| 1/30/200 8:22 PM | yep:-)
I am interested in that too, you know:-))
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| 1/30/200 8:23 PM | that's the idea :)
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| 1/30/200 8:24 PM | yeah:-)) how's your auctions?
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| 1/30/200 8:29 PM | $820
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| 1/30/200 8:31 PM | My congratulations,man! That's not bad at all,
is not that?
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| 1/30/200 8:33 PM | sort of ok, but i have a lot of expenses.
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| 1/30/200 8:36 PM | well,the profit is Marginal revenue-marginal
cost which is inevitable so...
gotta loose some money to gain even more
money:-))
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| 1/30/200 8:42 PM | yes, that is very true.
your machines, for example. $75 each. i pay
you $75. it costs me $30 to transfer money.
I pay my agent 15% when he gets them (another
$10 or so), then I pay HIS postage costs -
another $20 or so. so the $75 machine costs
me $110 or so. I could MAYBE sell it for
$125, IF I'm lucky. probably a lot less.
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| 1/30/200 8:44 PM | Well, for i payed USD 15 for each
machine+postage so..I also do not get much:-)
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| 1/30/200 8:45 PM | this is true. some machines have more demand
than others, so are worth more to me than i
could sell them for. mk-87 is one example.
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| 1/30/200 8:46 PM | yeah,I was lucky I ran across the guy who had
them:-))they are not popular over here:-))
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| 1/30/200 8:47 PM | what, exactly, IS a "people's deputy". what
does he/she do, and how does one get
appointed/elected?
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| 1/30/200 8:50 PM | Peoples deputy is a person elected within
his/her region by public(not during the USSR
times) and fulfills the duties of representing
his/her region in the parliament when at the
polls
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| 1/30/200 8:50 PM | are they corrupt?
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| 1/30/200 8:51 PM | mostly yes:-) that is why we are one of the
poorest countries in the world:-)
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| 1/30/200 8:52 PM | and the person who gave you (3?) MK-87
units... how did he/she find three of them?
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| 1/30/200 8:53 PM | during the communism time that was not
hard-their policy was:find and own:-)))
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| 1/30/200 8:54 PM | was the seller surprised somebody is hunting
old calculators?
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| 1/30/200 8:54 PM | nope...evidently that was not his business:-))
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| 1/30/200 8:56 PM | is it possible for you to find out the story
about how/when they were handed out? i assume
at a party conference... but was it for
attending? or just for every deputy? or
perhaps he had to order them? i'm just
curious. was he told they were just samples?
or if they were soon to be in production??
anything you can find out, would be great.
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| 1/30/200 8:57 PM | ok,I think I will try within a week...
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| 1/30/200 8:58 PM | thank you
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| 1/30/200 8:59 PM | no pro...remember,though...money as soon as
you get confirmation,ok?
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| 1/30/200 9:01 PM | yes. i have already written to my agent
telling him it is urgent that he lets me know
quickly.
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| 1/30/200 9:01 PM | it is my turn to thank you:-)
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| 1/30/200 9:04 PM | no worries. i believe in strong trading
partnerships.
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| 1/30/200 9:16 PM | ok, gotta go
see ya:-)
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| 1/30/200 10:02 PM | Andrew, there is a little problem with the
shipment....
the parcel to Belarus will cost USD 38 via EMS
service...
I do not even have half of the money...
what do you think?
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| 1/30/200 10:03 PM | we discussed this before. NOT using EMS is
OK... use the service you are confident with.
it is in your interest for the package to
arrive, so i trust the method you use.
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| 1/30/200 10:07 PM | Yeah, I just thought of one thing...if I
understand that right, you will still be
paying your agent for the shipment, right?If
you were willing to pay USD 35 I could just
send them directly to you...or ,which I think
is better USD 65 for UPS service, which is
more reliable and guarantees 3 day delivery...
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| 1/30/200 10:12 PM | No, i'd like them to go through my agent. I
trust his delivery methods 100%, and he will
probably hold the machines for a while and
I'll arrange delivery with some other stuff.
One of the machines is going to Moscow, as a
gift to a friend.
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| 1/30/200 10:14 PM | ok, then I will use just the normal ukrainian
post service...hopefully it is cheaper,
because otherwise I will just not be able to
afford it:-)
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| 1/30/200 10:15 PM | we need to know the prices anyway.
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| 1/30/200 10:16 PM | yep,that is right...I will inform you on the
results,then
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| 1/30/200 10:17 PM | ok
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| 1/30/200 10:18 PM | see ya then
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| 1/30/200 10:18 PM | postage to belarus can't be that much... !
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| 1/30/200 10:20 PM | you mean via EMS?
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| 1/30/200 10:20 PM | no, via regular post
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| 1/30/200 10:22 PM | ok,we will see..
I hope it will not..
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| 1/30/200 10:23 PM | yup
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| 1/30/200 10:24 PM | ok, see ya...I ill go check..
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| 1/30/200 10:27 PM | I think I will be able to give you the results
in an hour..
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| 1/30/200 10:30 PM | ok, i'll be here :)
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| 1/30/200 10:32 PM | yep, guess we will figure out something:-)
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| 1/30/200 11:02 PM | Ok, Andrew, here is what I have been able to
find out so far:
the normal postage will be really cheap,about
6 bucks but:
1)it will take about a month for the shipment
to reach your partner in Belarus
2)the post office at the moment does not have
the order forms which are being printed at the
moment and will be in access only in a week,
maybe more....
Now,that, of course is all good and I
understand you can wait, but the thing is I
cannot wait for the money to arrive to me in
amonth and a half or so...also, the person who
I got the 3rd calculator is waiting for the
promised payment by Monday...if I tell him I
am getting the calculator from him and paying
him in a month-that is not going to be
serious...
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| 1/30/200 11:04 PM | well, that's a bit of a problem.
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| 1/30/200 11:06 PM | yeah...I guess so...
it is evident by the normal post I will not be
able to send the machines even though I wanted
to untill the end of next week...plus it will
be enroute to your partner for a month...does
not look serious to me...expecially
considering I am counting each buck at the
moment...
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| 1/30/200 11:07 PM | do you have any other ideas?
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| 1/30/200 11:10 PM | as I have told you, there is only 3 means of
sending stuff:
1)EMS-which is a)expensive
b) will get a bunch of problems for me to mail
the stuff as I will have to get the checks of
my purchasing the calculators from the
official organization somewhere
2)UPS, which is faster,more reliable and
double as expensive
3)normal post...which I have just described
you...
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| 1/30/200 11:12 PM | i understand your situation - but we agreed
that i wouldn't send you any more money till
the calculators arrived.
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| 1/30/200 11:15 PM | yes..I understand that but....
what are your ideas on this situation?
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| 1/30/200 11:16 PM | for me, i am happy to wait. i've not been in
a hurry.
you are in a hurry, and this makes things very
difficult
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| 1/30/200 11:19 PM | that is true...but look:
I am interested to sell you the 3rd MK-87
bacause I need money soon and stuff and the
thing is I promised the guy who gave me the
calculator I will give him USD 15 on
Monday...he is quite a serious person and If I
just come up to him and give him the machine
back I doubt he will be willing to sell it at
all...
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| 1/30/200 11:21 PM | i understand. BUT, part of safe trading is
building up a relationship slowly. No matter
how much stuff you find, first we need to get
the first delivery made. If he will not sell
the machine, then that is just how it must be.
I can't send any more money until that
shipment arrives.
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| 1/30/200 11:24 PM | look,what keeps me interested in doinga
business with a person is that all the people
I have dealt with were willing to pay fast and
almost always ahead...
If you please, I could give you a referral
from the US who I dealt a lot with and who now
is not nervous about sending me USD 500 ahead
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| 1/30/200 11:25 PM | i want to do business with you. you have
found a few nice machines. but i also want to
proceed with caution until we have some trades
under our belt. i am sorry.
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| 1/30/200 11:29 PM | look, I do want to proceed doing business with
you as well but...how do you imagine our
mutual business together if I have machines
you have already purchased and one which you
will purchase but do not have money to send
them?I have payed a lot already for the
registration and licenses so far and seriously
it does not seem any wise to me spending my
last money so I will sit without a slice of
bread waiting 1.5 months for my revenue to
arrive...
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| 1/30/200 11:33 PM | hang on. I've sent you $120 already, right?
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| 1/30/200 11:46 PM | yeah, it went for registrationa week ago...
Davie, I do understand you.You of course
cannot trust me fully untill we have done a
successful deal.I could not trust somebody
myself in such a situation but...the thing is
I seriously cannot do business this way at the
moment...Look,I gave my mobile for the loan
and I have to get it by Wednesday...and I also
need USD 60 for the registration next
week....I also am counting for the offer I
have done to one person but...if he refuses to
buy the insulators from me...I will be in debt
of about USD 100...with no money even for
daily bread as my parents just hardly make
ends meet themselves-they are on pension-I
hope after I explained you the situation you
will understand why I need the money urgent...
Look, you have my passport information,right?
do you have anybody in the ukraine who could
get the money from me if I do not send you the
calculators?I do not have any other idea of
our mutual business...do,please,understand...I
was really counting on that money you would
have payed me if I sent you the parcel
today...but ...I just cannot wait for 1,5
months...seriously
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| 1/30/200 11:52 PM | i will be frank.
we did a deal, where you promised arrival of
machines. to ensure they arrived, the deal
was that you would get some (most) money
up-front, and the rest on arrival. you got
enough up-front to cover the purchase of
machines and more than enough to cover postage
and purchase of other machines.
instead, you decided to spend the money on
registration of a company - NOTHING to do with
me. you asked for extra time, and i was quite
willing to give you that.
but now, you want more money to pay for
something you've already promised me.
it is not safe for me, and warning bells are
buzzing all over the place.
i made you no promises other than delivery of
the money on receipt of the calculators. i
was hoping to build up a gradual partnership -
and I told you that, many many times.
you're now telling me you not only have no
money to buy new machines, BUT that you have
no money to send the machines I have already
bought from you!
please don't try to make ME feel bad, for I
have stuck 100% to our agreements so far.
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| 1/30/200 11:58 PM | OK, well sorry for all that crap...
now here is the situation: forget about the
3rd MK-48 I will try to send you the 2
machines by a regular post as soon as they get
the order forms...your partner will get it in
3 weeks or a month or so...does that satisfy
you?
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| 1/31/200 12:03 AM | MK-87, not MK-48. I am happy for you to
choose the safest/cheapest method of delivery
that you can, provided that the items arrive.
You can give it to a friend to carry to
Belarus, that would be fine by me.
you will find that I am 100% reliable, and
send money when I say I will. but I think you
are saying that you don't want to do business
anymore?
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| 1/31/200 12:12 AM | it looks like it.. sorry...it is not bacause I
am dissatisfyed with you or something...it is
just because...I cannot get money just when I
am in the most need...I am used to doing fast
business...my partners pay for the delivery to
their country...and it takes about 4 days for
them t o get the shipment...
..
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| 1/31/200 12:12 AM | Well,I cannot explain it to you but the thing
is...it does not seem serious for
me...like,say, npw I will have to go back and
say I am not getting the calculator and
stuff...
plus...if I had money I would of course
proceed with looking for calculators and stuff
but it is just the thing that in the near
future I will have no spare money to buy items
for you,the money for which I will get not so
soon...
I hope you understand me right.
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| 1/31/200 12:14 AM | i think your expectations of how much money i
have are way off target.
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| 1/31/200 12:19 AM | well...I am sure you do have enough money...
The psychological factor that influenses me at
the moment is just...that as I told you I have
been counting on the money from the third
MK-87 so much...and now I am in the whole
bunch of crap...
But, please, do not worry...I will send you
the calculators you have already purchased...I
am firm in my word also,that you will see...
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| 1/31/200 12:20 AM | thank you.
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| 1/31/200 12:22 AM | no problem...OK, I have to go...
I will try to send you the parcel next
thursday or friday...
Bye and good luck:-)
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| 1/31/200 12:23 AM | goodbye.
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