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A lot of work goes into scouting for Soviet calculators. Most if not all of my trading is done on the Internet, through email, ICQ and website contacts. Here is a sample session which shows just how much communication goes into finding these machines!

Negotiating

The following dialog is from several months' worth of ICQ conversations with an agent in Ukraine. This is fairly typical of the amount of work/negotiation that takes place when buying calculators from the former Soviet Union, and is especially typical of the types of disappointment which regularly show up.

In this case, our trading relationship has (hopefully temporarially) soured; have a good read and let me know what you would have done in the same situation. Would you send more money, or not?

Only the Names Have Been Changed...

Here is a time-ordered series of negotiations, covering various machines such as MK-47, MK-87, MK-95 and even spacesuits (!). You can see, a lot of time and effort goes into finding machines - on everyone's part! I have protected the agent's ID, and very little else. All of his wording is in Maroon

12/26/20 7:59 PM Sir,would you be interested in more russian calculators?I have a lot in inventory .....
12/27/20 1:03 AM absolutely. please let me know what models you have. thanks A
12/27/20 1:07 AM OK,I will check and give you the results later.The thing is I live in the Ukraine-you understand-it is not difficult to find our stuff here..... Would you be interested in ordering some specific russian models from me?
12/27/20 1:08 AM yes, i'd be interested in ordering specific models. i'm particularly looking for several of the MK-47 machine. are you familiar with this one? do you have any?
12/27/20 1:11 AM Not really but I will check and give you the results in a couple days... BTW,I need to know the price you would pay for them so I could count on the shipment expenses as well....
12/27/20 1:13 AM price depends VERY much on machine and condition. For example, a VEGA might bring a high price (several hundred dollars), as might an MK-47. Other machines like MK-90 I offer something around $50+.... and right now I have about a dozen new MK-60 machines, so I'm not paying much at all for those. Really, it depends on the machine. I'm after B3-04, MK-47, VEGA, and a few others - especially anything military :) or that I don't have listed
12/27/20 1:17 AM OK, I have access to a large number of calculators but I am not familiar with the models so I will check what is possible to find.Now I need to quit but if you are interested it probably would be better if you e-mail me the list of everything you want from Russia and the prices for each item...Then I will chek in the inventory. My e-mail is: (********)
12/27/20 1:19 AM i'll try to remember. but first, please let me know if you have vega or mk-47 thanks for contacting me :) cheers!
12/27/20 1:21 AM I think I do have mk-47(maybe even not one) but I have never heard of vega...
12/27/20 1:21 AM ok, please check, and let me know the serial # and date/price on the back of any machines you have.
12/27/20 1:22 AM ok,no problem:-) Bye
12/27/20 1:23 AM bye :)
12/27/20 10:46 PMHi, I have e-mailed you a couple models of calculators-what do you think of them?
12/27/20 10:48 PMthese are fairly common machines. as i have been collecting for several years now, i really need to find the 'difficult' machines.. and so offer a lot of $$$ for those. thanks for the info on machines - haven't had a chance to reply, yet. no sign of an mk-47 or vega or military machines (MK-87, 95s?)
12/27/20 10:52 PMI can check on those only this weekend-this is when I will give you the definite reply...Anyway for now would you be interested in buying these 2 models? Also,what about MK-54?
12/27/20 10:54 PMthe MK-54 is more interesting, as it is harder to find. The first two are very common (B3-14/M was the first machine I had). Does yours have a red LED display, or green fluorescent? The MK-44 is very common, and I have about 5 of these already. I only have two MK-54, but really need to save my $$$ for the machines I don't have. Sending money to anywhere in the former CCCP is very expensive!
12/27/20 11:01 PMYep,wire transfer onto my account from the US regularly takes about USD 30...in fees But,the shipment to your country will be pretty expensive also-that is why I am interested in selling you several machines at a time... The B3-14m has a green fluorecsent display...
12/27/20 11:02 PMi have 'agents' all over the place who handle shipping/collection for me, so we don't have to worry TOO much about shipping. Depends on what you find for me. I hate to say 'no' to things, but post-Christmas $$$ are very short right now, and I need to save for when the really needed machines show up. You said you had a lot of machines - how many is a lot?
12/27/20 11:05 PMMy relative has 10-15.The thing is at the moment I do not know which models he has...I will know Monday,sounds good?
12/27/20 11:08 PMsounds teriffic! i do like to get serial numbers and dates of all machines, even if i'm not interested in buying... it helps me learn early and late dates of manufacture. any information you can provide is most appreciated.
12/27/20 11:10 PMok,why does it sound terrific then? :-)
12/27/20 11:10 PMit means I'm pleased
12/27/20 11:13 PMoh,ok.... but if there is good stuff in there you will get it right?Like if I find more then one MK-47?Also would be really interested in the definite price you would pay for the MK-47...
12/27/20 11:14 PMfind me a guaranteed MK-47, and if you are able to send me scans or photos or some other proof (for I have had many people attempt to trick me on this one), then I offer US$250 for this machine alone. It is very rare, and I really want one. For me, this is a LOT of money, and I really can't afford it. But, that is my offer.
12/27/20 11:16 PMOK,I got your point...I will get you the answer next MOnday then. See ya...
12/27/20 11:17 PMbye :)
12/28/20 6:13 AM hey,tomorrow I will have an MK-47(without documents and case)....:-) also I have an MK-36 and MK-51: would you be interested in these last 2 ones? I would love to hear from you regarding the items I have offered to you so far. as for my relative's inventory,I will give you the answer Monday.
12/29/20 5:51 PM hello. did you write me an email yesterday/today about finding an MK-47? My machine has crashed, and I had to reinstall. Thanks A
12/29/20 9:27 PM hello. did you send me an email about an MK-47? i lost all yesterday's emails :(
12/30/20 1:15 AM Hi,could you give me the complite list of the russian machines that are of interest to you because I will right it down and check on all of them tomorrow.... BTW, a guy told me he has an MK-47...-he just could not find it yet....
12/30/20 1:21 AM ok. of most interest right now are any mechanical calculators from before 1920, P44SM, large desktop machines (Rasa, Ros, Orbita), EDVM, VEGA, Elektronika PPV, EKVM-P, electronic machines (B3-04, mk-47, mk-90, b3-54, MK-72, MK-87, MK-95) and finally, anything NOT mentioned on my site :) i am VERY dubious about the MK-47; many times it has been reported, only to disappear! don't spend any money on it till you SEE it :)
12/30/20 1:57 AM but what is:EDVM, VEGA, Elektronika PPV, EKVM-P-are these desktops or just calculators?
12/30/20 2:01 AM BIG, old calculators like very big typewriters :)
12/30/20 2:02 AM OK, thank you for the information and the advice...I will keep you posted....
12/30/20 2:04 AM good luck with the mk-47 :)
12/30/20 2:05 AM thx...will do my best just to proove I can..:-)
12/30/20 2:07 AM :) i'm REALLY wishing you luck!
12/30/20 2:07 AM I guess....:-)))
12/30/20 2:08 AM BTW, if I understand that right, you will buy everything you have given in the list, is that so?
12/30/20 2:10 AM it depends on your asking price. but yes, these are machines that I am VERY keen on buying. some are >25kg, though... so it depends on how I can get them here, too. tell me what you find from that list, then let me think about that :)
12/30/20 2:11 AM OK,no problem...
12/30/20 2:16 AM ok,bye...:-)
12/30/20 2:16 AM bye :)
12/30/20 2:17 AM hope to bring you good news... bye
12/31/20 2:59 AM Sir, I have 2 russian MK-87 calculators,new with documents and case.... I guess they are in your want list-so would you,please,inform me on how much you would get them for...:-) BTW, just to inform you- they were made in 1987 and this is a jubelee model: says: '70-years to the Great October' on the papercover of the documents.
12/31/20 9:52 AM mk-87 - great find. Can you accept US$50 each?
12/31/20 9:36 PM well, you see the shipment for me would turn out in USD 90....
12/31/20 9:49 PM i'll be back in a half-hour or so. let's chat then, if you're online.
12/31/20 9:49 PM so what do you think?The calculators are new and look great! anyway, do please understand- it is not profitable for me to come up equal with the money I will spend for buying them and shipping...
12/31/20 9:49 PM ok,I will wait for you..
12/31/20 10:27 PMok, back!
12/31/20 10:27 PMhow much would shipping to moscow be?
12/31/20 10:28 PM... and to belarus?
12/31/20 10:28 PMYou mean from the Ukraine?
12/31/20 10:28 PMyes!
12/31/20 10:29 PMjust very roughly will do
12/31/20 10:30 PMguess about USD 10 but I am not sure-I have never done that...
12/31/20 10:31 PMok, say US$10 as a guess. so, can you buy the calculators AND get a reasonable profit for youself if I offer $50 each + $10 to post to MOSCOW/BELARUS?
12/31/20 10:32 PMI guess so...
12/31/20 10:33 PMyou don't sound sure :) why don't you name a price you'd be happy with, for the machines you find, and i'll just say yes or no. remember, I have to pay US$30 on top of money I send, just to pay the cost of sending money! I have to be very careful about how much I spend - for I am really *not* a rich collector!
12/31/20 10:36 PMLook, I am just a student and never done the calculators collecting before,(though I done some collecting business with the partners in the USA) but I have prooved I can find something,right?At the moment I do not have Much money on My account even to look for the calculators... I am sure I will be really interested in doing constant business with you if you could afford to pay USD 150 this time...
12/31/20 10:39 PMummm... that's way out of my league, really. most of the machines i've bought have been US$10 - $20 each. $50 is a high price, $70 is the highest I've ever paid. I offer $250 for the MK-47, so you see how much I want that. i'll have to think about $150, as I am particularly poor at the moment. How soon is it necessary to get you an answer?
12/31/20 10:42 PMthe sooner-the better because you see I already have people running and looking for the machines that are of interest to you ...and as I have just payed for the tuition I am afraid if they find something I will not even be able to buy that stuff from them...
12/31/20 10:43 PMcan you do me pictures? i really need to see a scan / photo/photocopy before purchase.
12/31/20 10:45 PMI have never done business otherwise(I mean without sending the pictures first) I will do the pics with the digital camera-and will send them to you tomorrow. BTW,what exactly would you be interested to see in the pics?
12/31/20 10:46 PMI mean what should I do a stress on?
12/31/20 10:49 PMi'd like to use the pictures on my website... i have none right now. a good front-view, and a picture of the backplate would be really nice. a close-up of the display, and the keyboard would also be great. and if a manual, a picture of the machine sitting on the manual. but really, whatever you can do will be great. thanks. i'll talk to my friend in Moscow to see if he wants one, and if we can do a better price.
12/31/20 10:50 PMjust to clarify one thing... you said $150... is this for both machines, including postage to MOSCOW/Belarus... or just for one machine?
12/31/20 10:53 PMboth...but...before doing the pics I would really love to know that you will get the machines from me because at the moment I cacot really afford paying for anything that will not do profit for me.If you will buy the machines from me I will send you 5 different digital images so you could see everything...Would that do?
12/31/20 10:54 PMthinking...
12/31/20 10:54 PMok...
12/31/20 10:56 PMi honestly have *no* money right now. i have to wait till wednesday for pay, and had to *borrow* money from the bank to make our loan repayment for monday. so money is REALLY tight. i understand your need for money, but I have to sell something to make $$$ to send to you. this is OK by me, but it takes a little time. If $120 all-up, including postage to Belarus/Moscow, then I can say OK now - but it will take me a week to send.... and...
12/31/20 10:56 PMi'd like pictures before sending the money. if that is possible, then I can agree now to $120. More, and I'll have to think about it, and discuss it with my wife.
12/31/20 11:01 PMOK, I would like to close the deal on USD 150 but how about we do it like this: I will send you the pictures and then you will wire me the USD 120.upon receiving the money from you I will send the calculators to Russia/Belarus(I guess they will later somehow get to you) The remaining USD 30 you will wire to me around January 20th. would that be ok with you?
12/31/20 11:03 PMOK, that seems good enough. However, a couple of points... 1) $120 must wait about a week before I send 2) it costs me $30 to send money, so spending $30 to send $30 is silly. 3) Find me more machines before I send the $30 and include it with the next bigger payment? 4) Any progress/news on MK-47?
12/31/20 11:06 PM1) if I understand that right I will get the money in 2 weeks? 2,3) sounds reasonable 4) this is quite a rare thing....a couple people told me they have one but-will take some time to chek...I have already learned not to believe untill I see one... a whole bunch of more people are looking for one...I am pretty sure we will be able to find some sooner or later...
12/31/20 11:08 PMyes, i will send you US$120 by Western Union within two weeks. *shake*. Before that you send me pictures of the machines. After $120 arrives safely, you send machines to Belarus or Moscow. I will then owe you $30 for sending sometime soon - hopefully with more money for other machines you find.
12/31/20 11:12 PMok,no problem I will send you the pictures either tomorrow or the day after tomorrow then... anyway,I would prefer you somehow were able to send the money earlier because I have told you-if my people find something,I will not even be able to buy it from them-and we could loose some good picks...so...but if it is hard for you to do the wire any earlier...let it be so...
12/31/20 11:15 PMi promise to do it as soon as I can.
12/31/20 11:16 PMok...I will send you the pictures then
12/31/20 11:17 PMdeal? btw, if I find something else from your want list will you afford to buy it?
12/31/20 11:19 PMyes, deal! please do let me know anything you find from my want list. though I am short of $$$, if something good comes up, i sell something I don't need/want as much... this is why i usually need a few weeks time before making payments... to plan for money I have to send. i have basically $0 available and have to sell to buy :)
12/31/20 11:19 PMcan you tell me a few things about mk-87? is it programmable?
12/31/20 11:22 PMyep, plus it has a russian keyboard on one side of the cover and calculator on the other...looks pretty cool and is not big at all.also in russian says:' micro computer' not 'micro calculator'...you will see it soon...
12/31/20 11:23 PMexcellent. can't wait!
12/31/20 11:26 PMyep, send the money this week and you will get it really soon:-) BTW, that would be really good for bpth of us...
12/31/20 11:26 PMi understand. send me an email to remind me of everythign :)
12/31/20 11:27 PMof what? of your 'so much desire to have it soon' along with your 'willingness to send the wire this week'? :-)))
12/31/20 11:28 PMi leave things in my inbox until they're done. its just a reminder :) doesn't matter... when you send the images, i'll leave those in my inbox, and that will be reminder enough.
12/31/20 11:29 PMyep, I am pretty sure that will be so!!!! :-)))
12/31/20 11:30 PMok. thanks, and now the deal's done I'm eager to get things happening.
12/31/20 11:31 PMok, you will get the pics either tomorrow or the day after tomorrow,then it will be your turn so it happened faster..
12/31/20 11:31 PMyep.
12/31/20 11:33 PMsounds great...OK, I need to leave soon ..I will inform you as something new will turn up. Bye
12/31/20 11:33 PMbye :)
1/2/2001 9:58 PM hi,Happy New Year! I am just getting the pictures into the computer and will send them to you in 20 minutes...:-)
1/2/2001 10:00 PMBTW,I would really appreciate it if you could give me your website address so I had some information on what you collect and also so I had an idea of what the MK-47 looks like...
1/2/2001 10:14 PMhey, are you there?
1/2/2001 10:16 PMAM now! can't wait for the piccies :)
1/2/2001 10:18 PMyep,I already have 'em on my computer...you are to get the images in a few minutes!
1/2/2001 10:22 PMgreat. website it http://www.taswegian.com/MOSCOW/mk-47.html Put machine (with a dash) for any other machine ie: mk-87 is http://www.taswegian.com/MOSCOW/mk-87.html
1/2/2001 10:31 PMnot too big an email, thanks... over about a meg will bounce send several smaller ones if you have to, thanks.
1/2/2001 10:32 PMI have olready sent you the first batch... working on the others...
1/2/2001 10:33 PMi'll let you know as soon as they arrive how many pictures altogether?
1/2/2001 10:34 PM7
1/2/2001 10:34 PMgreat. are you sure it is programmable? it seems unlikely to me.
1/2/2001 10:37 PMyou could send me a file ICQ if you like.
1/2/2001 10:37 PMwell...it can be used a as a notebook or calculator...
1/2/2001 10:38 PMok, so it's not programmable. not a problem, i just wanted to know.
1/2/2001 10:39 PMthere is a bunch of stuff to do with it-I really yet do not have nore time nore desire to get into it...:-) as soon as you get it you will have plenty of time to figure everything out:-))
1/2/2001 10:40 PMoh, but they're so fascinating... how can you resist ;)
1/2/2001 10:41 PMyou know what a winter semester end is for a student don't you?:-))) consider also I need to do business at this time also...:-))
1/2/2001 10:42 PMjust wait till you have children.
1/2/2001 10:43 PMoh,yeah...:-)) that is what I work for...I have a girlfriend and need to think of the future...:-)
1/2/2001 10:45 PMno picture emails yet. can you send one pic by ICQ?
1/2/2001 10:46 PMI probably will have to because I have got a mail delivery-failure notification...:-(
1/2/2001 10:47 PMhow big was the email?
1/2/2001 10:47 PMabout 800kb
1/2/2001 10:47 PMcan you send it one mail/picture? also, try to ICQ just one (the best)
1/2/2001 10:48 PMyeah,this is what I am doing at the moment...hopefully that will work:-)
1/2/2001 10:52 PMdid you get the pic?
1/2/2001 10:52 PMnot yet. email?
1/2/2001 10:53 PMno ISQ and notify...
1/2/2001 10:54 PMnoooo... you should see "File" when switched to advanced mode, and that should try to send me the file straight away (I have to confirm).
1/2/2001 10:56 PMgood! i am currently receiving a largeish email, too. possibly yours?
1/2/2001 10:58 PMI guess so...
1/2/2001 10:58 PMfor transfer of money, I need the full name and address of the person who will COLLECT the money. It will be sent to your nearest WESTERN UNION office/agent, and that person will need photographic identification to collect.
1/2/2001 10:59 PMyeah, that is a subject of a little later disscussion:-) did you get any pictures so far?
1/2/2001 11:00 PMwithin a minute i will have a picture to view. i have a slow connection (33.1kbps)
1/2/2001 11:01 PMI have 128 over here...
1/2/2001 11:01 PMok, i have picture! thanks :)) i'll put it up on my site tonite. a rather ugly and unattractive calculator! it's definitely not programmable.
1/2/2001 11:02 PMif you have such bandwidth, you could download a short mpeg i made of my city, if you wish
1/2/2001 11:02 PMwell... so do you need the other pictures?
1/2/2001 11:03 PMyeah,that would be cool(about your city)I would love to...
1/2/2001 11:03 PMnot "need", no... but please send them. I really want to get everything you have.
1/2/2001 11:04 PMok, how about the deal then? are you seriously not satisfied with the calculator?
1/2/2001 11:04 PMyou misunderstood me. i'm VERY satisfied! i was just commenting that it is poorly designed :)) of course we have a deal :)
1/2/2001 11:06 PMgood... now I am sending you the no 2 and then no 3,4,5,6,7 BTW,meanwhile I would love to get a picture of your city:-))
1/2/2001 11:06 PMtry http://www.taswegian.com/TwoHeaded/wellington. pg - this is the mountain I live on, at the top, looking back at the city. and http://www.taswegian.com/TwoHeaded/yard.mpg this is our yard/house.
1/2/2001 11:08 PMcool....! that is your house? is that your car?
1/2/2001 11:09 PMyes, yes. and the yard is rather big. 1 acre, actually
1/2/2001 11:09 PMthe house is pretty small, though :)
1/2/2001 11:11 PMdammit! I wish I could have a rest in some house like that surrounded by such a nice nature! You have to thank God for living in such a Heaven...
1/2/2001 11:12 PMyes, we are very lucky. but i gave up a high paying job in the city of sydney to move down here. now i have no job.
1/2/2001 11:12 PMi am VERY interested in the serial #s of the machines did you already give me these?
1/2/2001 11:13 PMyeah...one has to put something off to get something more desirable...:-)) BTW, you never asked about my english-you might guess it is not my native language:-))
1/2/2001 11:14 PMi have communicated with MANY people from former Soviet Union; many of those have excellent english. yours is better than most, but it doesn't surprise me to find you have good english. your english is better than my russian :)
1/2/2001 11:15 PMok, one is 07825 made in 1987 the other is 04337 made in 1987
1/2/2001 11:16 PMwell as for my english -it has to be- I lived in the US
1/2/2001 11:16 PMok, you have got two more pictures-what do you think of them?
1/2/2001 11:18 PMpictures are great, thanks. i'm hoping for a close-up of front and back - then I would be REALLY happy. but as it is, i'm happy - a big thank you! thanks for the serial #s, too.
1/2/2001 11:18 PMi, too, have lived in the USA chicago
1/2/2001 11:20 PMthat is where I lived for some time also... ever happened to hear 'bout La Salle Ave?
1/2/2001 11:20 PMMostly I lived in Minneapolis, though...
1/2/2001 11:22 PMmy wife worked on la salle
1/2/2001 11:23 PMnice...I lived there 2 years ago...maybe we even have been neighbors?:-))
1/2/2001 11:25 PMshe worked in la salle street, chicago. maybe you mean the city of la salle?
1/2/2001 11:28 PMnope, the street...:-))
1/2/2001 11:29 PMok my wife lived with her aunt on la salle st., in old town
1/2/2001 11:31 PMcool, you ever happened to be in Minneapolis? And how did you like O'hare?Once I had to wait in the plane for 2,5 extra hours just because someone had put the signs in the wrong direction...that was fun:-)))
1/2/2001 11:32 PMno, no mineap. ohare is big, but LA is worse :)) i like watching the planes land at ohare... about 5 or 6 stacked on top of each other, a couple of minutes apart. scary.
1/2/2001 11:33 PMyep,and cool! How do you like the lake Michigan?
1/2/2001 11:33 PMit was big, but other than that i didn't really have much of an impression. i liked the little fish that washed up.
1/2/2001 11:34 PMwell, I liked to swim there...
1/2/2001 11:34 PMso, you were there in summer :)
1/2/2001 11:35 PMyep,that's right, and you?
1/2/2001 11:35 PMjuly-december, and several times since on month-long visits.
1/2/2001 11:36 PMyeah, so how do you like the States?Probably like a bunch of silly people,huh?
1/2/2001 11:37 PMmy wife is american. i like the midwest a lot, but i really don't like las vegas or california/la much.
1/2/2001 11:38 PMwhat is the small (display?) or plate to the right of the red/yellow/blue decal, with "P.S.P.V" in it?
1/2/2001 11:39 PMI have never been to the south/west-I only seen midwest.. Oh, that is just a clock:-)
1/2/2001 11:40 PMok. looks like the cover flap should have a hole in it, then, to let that show through.
1/2/2001 11:41 PMyep,impossible, though as there is a keyboard on that cover:-)
1/2/2001 11:41 PMin other words, it's poorly designed!
1/2/2001 11:43 PMwell, what were you waiting from the russians?:-))) have you ever seen anything of a good quality from Russsia?
1/2/2001 11:44 PMthe quality (workmanship) is often poor, and the technology limited... but some great things have been done by russia (especially in space).
1/2/2001 11:45 PMyep, that is of no concern...as for me,though, I would prefer they more cared about the well being of the people.:-))
1/2/2001 11:45 PMwht do you do for living?
1/2/2001 11:46 PMi am a programmer. i designed most of the technology in use at http://www.bde3d.com
1/2/2001 11:49 PMyou know what?I am just about of organizing a firm(this or the next month) that would do programming for the firms in the USA.(the difference in the salary is quite impressive-so this is a really good business).They need an off-shore-we need somebody to work for:-) What kind of programming do you do?
1/2/2001 11:49 PMok,now you have got all the 7 pics,right?
1/2/2001 11:50 PMi spent 10+ years doing games (!) for the Nintendo and the like, mostly assembler. these days I'm strong at graphics, windows and that sort of stuff. C++ is my weapon
1/2/2001 11:51 PMyeah, that is a powerful tool! Is there any interest in your country in having off-shores of the kind? we could work together...
1/2/2001 11:52 PM10, 11, 12, 14, 15, 16, 17 yes. thanks! i have a US bank account, and can transfer money USA-> Australia very cheaply, so if you ever need to do that just ask. australia->USSR(former) is expensive though
1/2/2001 11:52 PMit strikes me that, relatively, labour in your area is VERY cheap. however, it is also very dangerous... there are no guarantees that the job will be completed correctly. too far away, that sort of thing. maybe you need agents in the countries themselves.
1/2/2001 11:53 PMyep, western union is better in this case... From the US it takes like 30 bucks to get a wire onto my account here...
1/2/2001 11:54 PMgood enough. check out PayPal - a FREE way to send/receive money internationally. very very very very good service. www.paypal.com
1/2/2001 11:54 PMyeah, but why don't you consider the idea of giving us a test work?I already have a team of programmers ready so...
1/2/2001 11:56 PMbecause i am flat-broke!! i'm not an employer, i'm a programmer :)
1/2/2001 11:57 PMgot any friends in the firms who'd be interested in the idea?Guess you still would have enough money for registering a firm that would buy the programs from us and resll it to your firms...
1/2/2001 11:59 PMthx for the paypal but I guess it yet does not work in the Ukraine...:-(((
1/2/2001 11:59 PMnahh, really... i'm just a guy who programs. there's no way i'm able to get any business for you at this stage, sorry.
1/2/2001 11:59 PMthat's a shame.
1/3/2001 12:00 AMno problem...ever think it would be possible-let me know!
1/3/2001 12:01 AMno worries. what sort of work do you do, and what are your rates?
1/3/2001 12:01 AMsure is a shame but I am kinda used to the idea of my living in the Ukraine:-)))
1/3/2001 12:03 AMLook, at the moment these programmers are all working apart(in a month they will get an order from the US firm though) so....but they can do just alsmost anything(I could send you the resumes if you are interested) they can do web development,design and databases as well....
1/3/2001 12:05 AMi understand. i'll keep it in mind, if anything shows up.
1/3/2001 12:07 AMok, so now lets get down to business...
1/3/2001 12:14 AMyes. waiting for your info. also, any news on MK-47?
1/3/2001 12:14 AM1)it appeared there is only one set of documents for the 2 calculators(there is 2 boxes though) 2)I have told you I badly need the money so what I propose to do is: I
1/3/2001 12:14 AMwill sell you these two calculators+MK-44(box,no documents+B3-14M(no documents or box but with an adaptor) for USD 150 altogether but considering the fact that You will wire USD 150 to me tomorrow(or today as you like) via western union,upon receiving which I will send you these 4 calculators onto the address in Russia/Belarus Would that be OK with you?
1/3/2001 12:15 AMyet no news for MK-47 but I sure will have some as I get the money and be able to do some advertisement...
1/3/2001 12:16 AMwellll, not really. although you seem trustworthy enough, i need to build up some confidence, because (and this is NOT your fault) somebody before has sent me pictures but never delivered the machine. that's why I'd like to pay $120 up-front as agreed... because at the very least I get the pictures to put on my site (even if calculators disappear). but i really want to establish a reliable connection between you and my agent(s) before more $$
1/3/2001 12:16 AMre: mk47. you may be surprised. i have many people looking, and many have tried advertising. i thought you had a couple of sightings already. not so?
1/3/2001 12:27 AMyep, I do have some but they are in the other cities so...I will not get there untill the next week.So when will you be able to wire me USD 120?
1/3/2001 12:28 AMhopefully before/on Friday, but i need your details (via email, please)
1/3/2001 12:28 AMOK,What exactly do you need?
1/3/2001 12:29 AMthe name and address of the person who will collect money from Western Union. That person will need to take photo-ID to the WU agent to collect funds. I will ICQ/email you a secret number when the transfer is done - the person must take that number to the WU agent, too.
1/3/2001 12:31 AMi have to scoot for half an hour - my favourite tv show is on :)))
1/3/2001 12:33 AMOK,I will bet back to you tomorrow then.I will send you the information today.Meanwhile give me please theaddress of the person I will need to send the parcel to. Bye:-)
1/3/2001 12:33 AMok, bye.
1/3/2001 12:34 AMhave a good day!
1/3/2001 1:09 AM hey,Andrew, one more thing: a friend of mine has a Felix calculator...What do you think of it?
1/3/2001 1:10 AM they sell for anything from US$30 to US$250 depends on the model and where the calculator IS (ie: USSR or USA)
1/3/2001 1:12 AM it is in Zaporozhye,Uklraine...But I am not yet sure of the model... Would you please give me the prices for the models so I could check on wether it would be profitable for me to start talking with him or not...
1/3/2001 1:13 AM they are VERY heavy, and cost a fortune to get from there to USA, so not many buyers are interested. If it is older than 1920, then it is very worthwhile getting it, though. If newer, then it has to be in REALLY good condition - otherwise, not really worth it.
1/3/2001 1:14 AM I think the guy told me it is something of 1950s
1/3/2001 1:15 AM they are fairly easy to find, from that date. worth perhaps $50 is my guess. but then you have enormous postage cost.
1/3/2001 1:16 AM yep,guess it is better just to forget about it then...:-)
1/3/2001 1:19 AM how was the show?
1/3/2001 1:20 AM good:) Judge Judy!
1/3/2001 1:21 AM yeah,ok I have sent you my information... bye. Happy New Year!
1/3/2001 1:22 AM bye. i'll do your money transfer as soon as i possibly can.
1/3/2001 1:22 AM thanks:-)
1/3/2001 11:11 PMOK, I will keep that in mind:-)
1/3/2001 11:49 PMhi,how are you today? have you already put the pics on the website ? :-)
1/3/2001 11:49 PMyes indeed!
1/3/2001 11:51 PMcould you give me the address please?I want to see 'em...:-) BTW, is the information I gave you enough for the wire?
1/3/2001 11:52 PMhttp://www.taswegian.com/MOSCOW/mk-87.html the info you gave is fine. I will definitely send $$$ either tomorrow or Friday.
1/3/2001 11:54 PMplease, try tomorrow....that might be better for both of us...:-)
1/3/2001 11:55 PMi know you need it quickly.
1/3/2001 11:56 PMyep...guess you also do not want to wait for another month or two untill I find you the MK-47? :-)
1/3/2001 11:58 PMah, now there you are mistaken. i have learned EXTREME patience when dealing with russia/former Soviet places. some items I purchased over a year ago, I have not seen yet. Still in Moscow. The trick, when buying Russian calculators, is not to get too excited, and never never wait on the doorstep for the mail to arrive. That way, you don't get too disappointed :) I'd love an MK-47 - yes - but a day or two won't make much difference.
1/3/2001 11:59 PMso where is the pics? there is only html text...
1/4/2001 12:00 AMyou must be behind a cache somewhere? the pics are DEFINITELY there try http://www.taswegian.com/MOSCOW/mk-87.html?0 the ?0 bit sometimes fools cache software
1/4/2001 12:00 AMguess you are right...for me though, the main point is money as I am not interested in collecting calculators:-) so as I am looking for them-that is just because you will buy them, you know...:-)
1/4/2001 12:01 AMyep, that worked....they turned out nice...:-)
1/4/2001 12:02 AMyep. one thing about the MK-47.... $250 is my top price. I'm probably offering 2x what anyone else will, anyway... but that's my absolute limit. I consider that rather a ridiculous amount to pay for a calculator anyway, but I've promised that to some of my scouts so that's what I'm offering. I have already lost $200 'buying' this machine from people, and had it never show up...
1/4/2001 12:08 AMyep...shit happens...how is it dealing with russians anyway? BTW, do you need an MK-60?
1/4/2001 12:10 AMi find russians EXTREMELY friendly and eager to help. i have several very good Russian friends, and I have helped them wherever I could. Read the Ballad of Igor and Vlad on my site. Only one guy has really ripped me off, and I'm just a bit careful since then. This is nothing to reflect on you... I am just being cautious; as partnerships get more trusted, I am less careful :) MK-60 is not very desirable for me, sorry.
1/4/2001 12:11 AMalso...from your website:'Sergei reported that this model was manufactured in 7000 pieces, and made available only to party deputies' that is actually where I got them from...:-)
1/4/2001 12:12 AMthat's very good information, thanks. i like information even more than having the machines :)) I will have to find out more about what 'party deputies' are
1/4/2001 12:13 AMwould you anyway pay 30 bucks for it so I include it in the parcel I will be shipping to Moscow/Belarus?
1/4/2001 12:15 AMno, you misunderstand my prices. for MOST machines I offer US$5 or so. (***) Typically, a price of $20 is unusually high. The machines I have given you a list of are the most desirable, so I pay much higher for most of those. For ones not listed, only a few $$$ at most... IF I wanted them.
1/4/2001 12:15 AMgotta go offline for about 5 minutes.
1/4/2001 12:26 AMhey, as for the MK-47...if I find 10 will you be able to get them from me?:-)
1/4/2001 12:26 AMyes, but not all at once ;)
1/4/2001 12:27 AMi'd probably offer $250 for the first, maybe that for the second $200 for the 3rd, $150 for the 4th, etc. as they become more common, they become less valuable :)
1/4/2001 12:28 AMOK, IF I find 10 will you get them for USD 1500?
1/4/2001 12:28 AMgawd. you won't find 10. if you do, yes I'd probably try and save that much.
1/4/2001 12:29 AMwell, as for finding them-it is my business, don't you think?:-) The most important part is to keep me interested...:-)
1/4/2001 12:30 AMfind me one, and I'll definitely buy another. and another.... etc.
1/4/2001 12:31 AMdeal.....:-))) ok, gotta go... see ya..:-) please, hurry with the transfer-that would help a lot in my findings...:-)
1/4/2001 12:31 AMok. bye.
1/4/2001 10:20 PMHi, anything new on the transfer?:-)
1/4/2001 10:25 PMtomorrow guaranteed, rabbit died today
1/4/2001 10:26 PMwhat does the second part mean?
1/4/2001 10:27 PMhome disaster, dead pet...money tomorrow
1/4/2001 10:28 PMOH,OK...My condolences... BTW, how much you buy the slide rules for?
1/4/2001 10:29 PMUnless they're unusual, I'm not really interested in sliderules at the moment.
1/4/2001 10:30 PMwhat do you mean by unuasual?Just curious in case I come across some...
1/4/2001 10:32 PMrussian sliderules are nearly all identical. Anything circular, cylindrical or LOTS of different scales might interest me.
1/4/2001 10:35 PMOK.... so if you wire the money tomorrow will I get it tomorrow then?
1/4/2001 10:36 PM10 minutes after I wire it, it will be available.
1/4/2001 10:37 PMOK, what time are you going to wire it and what is the time difference between Australia and the Ukraine?
1/4/2001 10:38 PMI don't know exactly...but around 12 PM (noon) here. what's the time there now...it's 10:38 PM here now.
1/4/2001 10:40 PMit is 13:38 over here-3 hours difference- I will get it around 15-16:00 then?
1/4/2001 10:41 PMit's 10:40 PM -- 22:40 here...so take off 9 hours or so
1/4/2001 10:46 PMOH, pm...So is it still Wednesday in Australia?Or Thursday?
1/4/2001 10:48 PMIt is Thursday.
1/4/2001 10:51 PMoh,ok- then the money will be available Friday morning...That is good. Please, send me an e-mail with the information as soon as you wire the money-I will check e-mail in the morning then... BTW,I am not 100% sure(as I have already learned not to be) but we might have first of the MK-47 machines in a week or so...
1/4/2001 10:52 PM:))
1/4/2001 10:53 PMyep...now I understand you when you said not to buy one untill I see one...:-))
1/4/2001 10:54 PMyep
1/4/2001 10:56 PMbut you know what the Bible says: 'The one who seeks will find'......Or there is a good russian saying:'if one wants too much-it is possible for him to fly'...
1/4/2001 10:59 PMwell, i DIDN'T know what the Bible says :)
1/4/2001 11:00 PMNow you know:-) BTW it is a wonderful book...a lot of good thoughts in it.
1/4/2001 11:01 PMi'm sure there are. not for me, though.
1/4/2001 11:01 PMWhy? You do not believe in God?
1/4/2001 11:01 PMno, i do not.
1/4/2001 11:03 PMtoo bad...I do.In fact most of the ancient scientists did- the laws they discovered,according to their understanding, never gone apart from the Bible...:-)
1/4/2001 11:04 PMi don't try to convince people god doesn't exist, for each his own.
1/4/2001 11:05 PMmy own children will make up their own minds on the issue.
1/4/2001 11:07 PMYep, that is good. How old are you? I will be 19 in a month....
1/4/2001 11:07 PMi am 36
1/4/2001 11:09 PMhow confident (%) are you that you have found a MK-47?
1/4/2001 11:12 PMWell, a friend of mine from Dnipropetrovsk (90 km from Zaporozhye)told me he has one.......I will not be able to check untill the 20th of this month as I have exams coming one after another....
1/4/2001 11:13 PMdoes it read/write programs on magnetic cards?
1/4/2001 11:18 PMI yet do not know...BUT,I have told you: My business is finding collectables people abroad are interested in and selling it to them.So far I have never been unable to find something I was interested in finding!At the moment people through out most of the Ukraine are looking for it...When I will be holding the machine in my hands-I will give you all the information you will inquire...
1/4/2001 11:19 PMi'll put your photo up on the mk-47 page... eternal fame!
1/4/2001 11:22 PMThanks:-) I do hope I will deserve it! I will do my best...to do good for both of us... BTW, we sure could excnange photos...I will send you mine tomorrow..:-)
1/4/2001 11:28 PMhttp://www.spotlife.com/users/adavie/webcam/
1/4/2001 11:35 PMthe 3 large green boxes behind me are full of Russian calculators :))
1/4/2001 11:37 PMcool! I am working from the internet center at the moment-I am going to see if it is possible to make up something like that!
1/4/2001 11:37 PMit's a $30 logitech webcam. does a pretty good job. i'm turning it off now, though.
1/4/2001 11:39 PMok,I will send you my image in 10 minutes,ok?
1/4/2001 11:40 PMok, sure. i'll get the mk-47 page ready for the big day ;)
1/4/2001 11:40 PMOK :-))
1/4/2001 11:41 PMwhile i think of it, i know a few people looking for russian computers, too. especially UNIX ones (very old) and home computers of russian/USSR design.
1/4/2001 11:42 PMi'm trying to install a bit of software that doesn't want to install under windows 2000 a while ago I read a command which makes windows APPEAR to be an older OS. can't find it. do you know it?
1/4/2001 11:42 PMLIKE POISK 1 or poisk 2 maybe?
1/4/2001 11:43 PMnope,I haven't heard of it....
1/4/2001 11:44 PMyes, exactly. poisk, etc.
1/4/2001 11:45 PMI can get a bunch of those! Pretty quick also...One thing is the price....for models 1 and 2
1/4/2001 11:46 PMthe price must be negotiated. i will tell the people i know about you. make a list of machines you can find, and a description of capabilities. i'll pass it on whenever somebody asks. typically >$50/machine seems reasonable. <$200 for most. depends on the machine, etc.
1/4/2001 11:49 PMwhat I meant is I only can get poisk 1 or 2... how much are they without a monitor and keyboard?
1/4/2001 11:49 PMaverage for a nice condition...
1/4/2001 11:50 PMi don't really know prices. i just know people looking for russian computers. without keyboard, probably not very attractive. don't know about the monitor. probably OK without monitor. no IBM PC clones wanted.
1/4/2001 11:52 PMyep,I guessed about that:-) I mean I can get them whole with russian monitors(electronika) but it would not be profitable for me to ship them abroad for that price...
1/4/2001 11:53 PMprobably not worth it. but the computers themselves... probably.
1/4/2001 11:54 PMyep....that is what I thought...we'll see though...The main interest for me now is MK-47..:-)
1/4/2001 11:55 PMok. AND anything military, of course!
1/4/2001 11:55 PMLike what? you never gave me the details....
1/4/2001 11:57 PMmk-95S, i've heard about i know of a few military "target" calculators... sort of in briefcases i don't want anything illegal... just old military stuff which isn't commercial
1/4/2001 11:58 PMok, I will keep that in mind as well...thosetarget" calculators... are probably of the same price as MK-47?:-)
1/4/2001 11:59 PMoh, probably. find one first, then haggle with me :)
1/5/2001 12:01 AMAm not sure of that one...our military stuff is not likely to negotiate with....:-))
1/5/2001 12:02 AMprobably illegal to export anyway :))
1/5/2001 12:02 AMi know of a couple of devices which aren't on my site, as the finder has asked me not to - out of fear she will get in trouble with the security forces.
1/5/2001 12:02 AMit depends:-))) there are ways...
1/5/2001 12:09 AMwhat kind of devices?Models?would you be interested in those?
1/5/2001 12:10 AMthe program I was looking for is called "application compatibility tool". found it.
1/5/2001 12:11 AManything that is a calculator or calculator/computer.
1/5/2001 12:16 AMOK,can't guarantee but I will try...I will send you the pics tomorrow 'cause today I have to leave now.... So Can I check my mail for the transfer details tomorrow morning then?
1/5/2001 12:17 AMyes. details will be there.
1/5/2001 12:18 AMGood....also...gimmi the destination I will be shipping to...I do not want to wait for too long on that...
1/5/2001 12:19 AMi need to contact my agents. give me a few days on the address.
1/5/2001 12:22 AMok,I mean I would like to ship next week you will have enough time right?
1/5/2001 12:23 AMyes. plenty of time.
1/5/2001 12:24 AMdeal:-)
1/5/2001 12:24 AMI will be waiting for the information then... bye:-)
1/5/2001 12:24 AMbye!
1/5/2001 12:25 AMWhy with the exclamation sign?:-)
1/5/2001 12:26 AMit means i'm thinking of an mk-47 :)
1/5/2001 12:26 AMYeah......me too! bye!
1/5/2001 7:33 PM Hi Andrew! Guess you've finally made it?I am just going to get the money...Now it is my turn on fullfilling my part-as soon as you give me the address I will send you the money...
1/5/2001 7:36 PM I meant the...calculators.....I am kinda still sleeping :-)))
1/5/2001 7:43 PM let me know how you go, collecting the money.
1/5/2001 9:58 PM how am I supposed to understand that?
1/5/2001 10:00 PMBTW, I got the money:-) thanks for trusting me.I hope I will be able to proove I am worth that trust:-)
1/5/2001 10:03 PMalso...could you at least tell me to what country I will be shipping so I was able to figure out the procedure and the price...One more thing...do you want me to send you a B-3-14m and MK-44 along with the mk-87s(just like Christmas presents to you)?
1/6/2001 1:34 AM hi, how is it going?
1/6/2001 1:35 AM good. glad the money got there ok.
1/6/2001 1:37 AM yep, me too...so would you like me to send you the MK-44 and B3-14M along with the MK-47s as a present to you?
1/6/2001 1:39 AM i appreciate the offer - thank you. but, it is very expensive to post machines here, so I really need to only get what I really really need/want. If you could give me the dates on the machines, that would help me, though. Perhaps you should keep them handy, and if anyone I know is looking for those machines, I can point them to you - and you sell to them.
1/6/2001 1:41 AM I meant with MK-87s...you might have noticed I am kinda mesed up today... did not sleep much and drank a lot yesterday(actually today also)...... OK,I will give you the dates later... I do not have them with me at the moment...
1/6/2001 1:43 AM ok, thanks. $120 is a lot of money for a student, no? i hope it helps you a lot. i will get you an address for delivery in a day or two.
1/6/2001 1:44 AM Hey, I just was told I will have an MK-47 on the 9th or so...
1/6/2001 1:44 AM well, that's exciting... but how sure are you?
1/6/2001 1:46 AM well I am just chatting with a friend of mine over ICQ-she just told me-she says she is sure and it is working!But.......I have learned not to trust people on this one so.....just informed you....
1/6/2001 1:47 AM ok, since you are chatting NOW... please ask a few questions 1) what is the date and serial number? 2) what colour is the display digits? 3) does it have magnetic cards for program storage 4) does it have a manual
1/6/2001 1:48 AM Look I will give you the information on the 9th or when I will have it...she does not have it with her right now...nor at home-a friend of hers does.
1/6/2001 1:49 AM ok. i understand. it's just that i consider the mk-47 a bit elusive, and the last one I *definitely* had was destroyed in a fire in the house where it was stored, BEFORE I got any of that information. It was very very very very frustrating. But, I will wait, as you ask. I have to!
1/6/2001 1:50 AM yep-that is a good idea... she says she is 90% sure...she will have it
1/6/2001 1:51 AM ok. now, we wait :) i hope you're giving her a good finders fee.
1/6/2001 1:52 AM yep-that is one of the VERY imporatant factors that influence my success a lot!:-)
1/6/2001 1:53 AM how many 'scouts' do you have?
1/6/2001 1:54 AM I guess I better will not count :-)))) People in 9 cities of the Ukraine are looking...I am sure they will find something-the only problem is TIME(though I personally would prefer it be done as soon as possible!) :-)
1/6/2001 1:56 AM as well as $$$, i can also purchase/send items to you. I have done this for some others (eg: new electronic calculators from the West, etc). Just something to keep in mind.
1/6/2001 1:56 AM OK,well lets hope for te better then...Gotta go . see ya
1/6/2001 1:58 AM OH, thanks:-) I will keep that in mind...just in case...I am sure you will have time..I am planning on dealing with you for a longer period than just one deal...
1/6/2001 1:59 AM good. :) bye
1/6/2001 1:59 AM bye
1/6/2001 9:12 AM hey,g'morming to you!
1/6/2001 9:52 AM g'morning!
1/6/2001 11:34 PMhi......how is it going? seems you do not like to sleep a lot?
1/6/2001 11:35 PMi have children... one day you will understand :)
1/6/2001 11:35 PMyep....I hope so:-))) the sooner the better:-)
1/6/2001 11:36 PMtake your time. kids are great, but your life changes. do things first.
1/6/2001 11:36 PMthat seems to be a good idea:-))btw,I hate sleepind a lot as well:-)
1/6/2001 11:37 PMi hate NOT sleeping! i just don't get much sleep sometimes
1/6/2001 11:37 PMhow many children do you have?
1/6/2001 11:37 PMtwo. caitie 6, cameron 4
1/6/2001 11:37 PMtry http://www.taswegian.com/TwoHeaded/tree.mpg
1/6/2001 11:40 PMcool! you have a nice son! he is pretty much like you:-)
1/6/2001 11:40 PMothers have said he's similar, so i believe you :)
1/6/2001 11:41 PMsorry, I need to go...se ya later:-)
1/7/2001 8:43 PM Merry Christmas(eastern european style) :-)
1/7/2001 8:45 PM ah! well, merry eastern christmas back
1/7/2001 8:47 PM yep...btw I will be sending you a couple pictures of mine in a few minutes:-)
1/7/2001 8:51 PM ok!
1/7/2001 8:58 PM are you there?I have sent you a file transfer request...
1/7/2001 9:00 PM dinner time!
1/7/2001 9:01 PM OH,ok...lunch time over here:-) never tried having a meal at the computer?a bad habit af all ukrainian programmers:-))
1/7/2001 9:14 PM please, reply for one more file request:-)
1/7/2001 9:30 PM ok
1/7/2001 9:31 PM pic cam through fine. you look young :)
1/7/2001 9:34 PM I will be 19 February 8th:-) anyway,that aspect does not influence my business much:-))
1/7/2001 9:38 PM fair enough :)
1/7/2001 9:38 PM does the second one describe me better?:-)
1/7/2001 9:38 PM which one do you want on the page with the mk-47? by the way, how did you find out about me?
1/7/2001 9:40 PM As soon as I find one I will send you another pic of mine with the MK-47:-) search engines:-)I've got pretty smart on those as I told you I sell collectible stuff(mostly to the US,though)
1/7/2001 9:42 PM BTW, do you happen to know anybody who'd want something collectible from Russia?does not really matter what as long as they'd be willing to pay for it:-)
1/7/2001 9:43 PM i know people looking for computers, as I said. probably there are some who want women, too ;)
1/7/2001 9:44 PM So what if I am willing to help? :-)))
1/7/2001 9:45 PM if seriously,maybe something like ukrainian/russian culture items or something alike?
1/7/2001 9:45 PM actually, i see a fair few ads for russian women. they must be very common over there
1/7/2001 9:46 PM i am absolutely sure that space-related items would be VERY popular i also know that lots of people collect radios... especially old old transistor ones.
1/7/2001 9:50 PM yep, that is true...our women are looking to merrying someone with the money. I would be really grateful to you if you might be willing to help me contact those people... BTW,as for the space items...what kind? and I might be able to get a lot of transistor radios...
1/7/2001 9:53 PM anything technical related to space. of course, space suits are hard to come by! i guess anything unusual and definitely related to the space program. start collecting the radios. i expect they should fetch $20-$50 each, depending on the condition/model etc. The older ones are quite stylish, so they're in demand (I think!)
1/7/2001 9:56 PM as for the radios-it is just easier for me to go to the market and buy the necessary ones as long as somebody would be willing to buy like 10 from me so I had profit after sharing the shipment expnses:-) I get interested in the space related Items-is it possible to specify the topic some...?
1/7/2001 9:58 PM any parts of spacesuits would be extremely valuable. anything related to astronauts would be pretty valuable. anything flown in space and actually used for the job would be pretty valuable (eg: a book/calculator/watch, etc) i don't really know what sorts of things you can find. any parts of old spaceships would be pretty amazingly valuable (panels, etc). what sort of things can you find?
1/7/2001 10:01 PMI have not yet examined the possibilities but...there is a factory in the ukraine not too far from me that manufactures satellite equipment...plus I will look in the other sources..if I will know somebody would buy the stuff I find...Do you think I should start investigating this possibility?
1/7/2001 10:02 PMabsolutely. the older stuff is what people want, though... 1960s, 70s, 80s hey, i would LOVE a spacesuit!
1/7/2001 10:03 PMOK, If I find one,how much you would get it for?:-))) I need to know this to estimate the possibilities...
1/7/2001 10:07 PMhonestly? i don't have the money. but if I *did*, i'd pay something like many thousands of dollars for one. i couldn't offer what they're worth, but if I could buy one for $7,500 I'd really jump at it :)
1/7/2001 10:09 PMOK,let's put it that way: If I find a suit, would you find a customer for me who'd get it for USD 7000?
1/7/2001 10:11 PMa suit with hard hat/visor, gloves... ie: a full "spacewalk-style" pressure suit? $7000? absolutely, i'd buy it myself!
1/7/2001 10:16 PMIf that is serious I will emmideately start looking!
1/7/2001 10:16 PMyou will need to give me a few weeks to come up with $$$ though!!!!!!!!!!
1/7/2001 10:18 PMOK, we will try to do that-it is completely a