120 line viewer

[Gregory]

Does anyone know of a 120 line viewer, so far I have only found for 60 lines
I have found Video2nbtv V3 for converting to 120 lines but I would like to have a player for this

[gary]

The 120 Line FSC format is HIGHLY experimental and was included with Video2NBTV in error.

I have a "special" programme that I use to test new formats with but it is not "user friendly" enough for general use.

However there have been a number of expressions of interest in this format so in the spirit of encouraging experimentation I have knocked up a simple viewer.

In addition to that there were a few errors associated with the "in error" release (although the video itself is fine). These have been corrected.

To use this format unzip the attached zip file. It contains 120FSCPlayer, which you can extract to anywhere suitable to yourself. You can run it by just double clinking on it.

In addition it contains 120FSCRenderer.ren which needs to replace the existing 120FSCRenderer.ren in "C:\Program Files\NBTVA\Video2NBTV-V3" (or where ever you chose to install Video2NBTV-V3.

Note: This format is HIGHLY experimental, it does work well (on my machine), but, as it is VERY resource intensive, it may not run on every machine, modern machines will work fine, modern OS's not necessarily.

Have a go - there is nothing much to lose.

[Harry Dalek]

Works great Gary ,i am still using windows 7 and works fine on that .
The last filter it slows the video a bit but my computer is a few years old ...i don't think you will get any complaints ! A thank you from Harry !

[gary]

The last filter it slows the video a bit but my computer is a few years old ...i don't think you will get any complaints ! A thank you from Harry !

Yes it does on mine as well - lot's of processing, but if you reduce the size of the picture it gets better.

Thanks for the feed back.

[Gregory]

The 120 Line FSC format is HIGHLY experimental and was included with Video2NBTV in error.

I have a "special" programme that I use to test new formats with but it is not "user friendly" enough for general use.

However there have been a number of expressions of interest in this format so in the spirit of encouraging experimentation I have knocked up a simple viewer.

In addition to that there were a few errors associated with the "in error" release (although the video itself is fine). These have been corrected.

To use this format unzip the attached zip file. It contains 120FSCPlayer, which you can extract to anywhere suitable to yourself. You can run it by just double clinking on it.

In addition it contains 120FSCRenderer.ren which needs to replace the existing 120FSCRenderer.ren in "C:\Program Files\NBTVA\Video2NBTV-V3" (or where ever you chose to install Video2NBTV-V3.

Note: This format is HIGHLY experimental, it does work well (on my machine), but, as it is VERY resource intensive, it may not run on every machine, modern machines will work fine, modern OS's not necessarily.

Have a go - there is nothing much to lose.

Many thanks Gary - I downloaded the files and it works a treat

[gary]

Many thanks Gary - I downloaded the files and it works a treat

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[McGee2021]

I may be an experimental viewer, but ive started to use it to much! Ive made many videos using Video2NBTV V3 on 120 line fsc, and i went to the viewer, tried to open a video, and it just froze! it has only happened to me since i updated my computer to this dreaded windows 10. otherwise, it worked perfectly before! just wanted to inform you in case you would like to know of any issues on the program, gary

[Harry Dalek]

HI Gary i have no idea ....but is it possible to add other line systems to Big Picture ?
I think it would be a useful tool for mechanical cameras to have a live viewer for different line rates...a live version would be great to test projects out .. wondering if theres any thing to look forward to on this front....not many Nbtver's do your programing .
Any case least we have yours and Dom's software to help us as is .

[Steve Anderson]

Yes, having migrated from Win XP to Win 10 (missing all versions in between) I frankly am less than impressed. It works, but so did XP. The only reason I 'upgraded' to 10 was to run Autocad 2016 which requires at least 8.1. This is a requirement of the company I'm currently working for. It also meant I had to buy a new PC, I was quite happy with Autocad 2005 previously, it did and still does does all I and they ever require. A case of "Keeping up with the Jones's" I think.

Steve A.

[gary]

I may be an experimental viewer, but ive started to use it to much! Ive made many videos using Video2NBTV V3 on 120 line fsc, and i went to the viewer, tried to open a video, and it just froze! it has only happened to me since i updated my computer to this dreaded windows 10. otherwise, it worked perfectly before! just wanted to inform you in case you would like to know of any issues on the program, gary

Thanks for the heads up - I have a w10 machine to test it on so will get back to you when I get a chance to try it.

[gary]

HI Gary i have no idea ....but is it possible to add other line systems to Big Picture ?
I think it would be a useful tool for mechanical cameras to have a live viewer for different line rates...a live version would be great to test projects out .. wondering if theres any thing to look forward to on this front....not many Nbtver's do your programing .
Any case least we have yours and Dom's software to help us as is .

Hi Harry, the aim is to make TBP in sync with Video2NBTV such that as new formats are added to Video2NBTV TBP is automatically updated as well.

However, due to an amazing sequence of coincidences this has become far more difficult to do (logistically) than anticipated, however it is intended to be completed sometime in the near to medium future.

In the meantime I am always happy to provide standalone viewers for "special" formats, or formats that are available in Video2NBTV and not in TBP, providing they are reasonably straightforward.

[Harry Dalek]

Hi Harry, the aim is to make TBP in sync with Video2NBTV such that as new formats are added to Video2NBTV TBP is automatically updated as well.

Both very good as they are but i was wondering what you had in mind on this good idea ......i don't think there are many people doing this part of the hobby because its hard really i think .

However, due to an amazing sequence of coincidences this has become far more difficult to do (logistically) than anticipated, however it is intended to be completed sometime in the near to medium future.

I am sure every one here would appreciate the work if you have time to do any more ,i always have a look if you have added any thing to your web site ...your site is very easy to find just google Gary nbtv and your first on the list

In the meantime I am always happy to provide standalone viewers for "special" formats, or formats that are available in Video2NBTV and not in TBP, providing they are reasonably straightforward.

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I am interested in live viewers of any of the other formats but as always i have to master the first 32 line to think about the others ,its more of a wanted tool for the future project work ,for camera work i do have Big picture and you original small viewer which i will use on my current project .

A 120 line b/w live viewer would be a goal arrrr one day

[gary]

A 120 line b/w live viewer would be a goal arrrr one day

Harry, I can guarantee you a 120 line b/w viewer will be available hours after you have a 120 line b/w mechanical camera ready

[Harry Dalek]

A 120 line b/w live viewer would be a goal arrrr one day

Harry, I can guarantee you a 120 line b/w viewer will be available hours after you have a 120 line b/w mechanical camera ready

OH i have to think about that one i am still working on your 32 line challenge from a few years ago ! if i can do a 32 line direct light camera 3rd time lucky fingers crossed my thoughts will turn to higher line rate version...a 120 line viewer as a reward hell i will have to at least think about it

[gary]

A 120 line b/w live viewer would be a goal arrrr one day

Harry, I can guarantee you a 120 line b/w viewer will be available hours after you have a 120 line b/w mechanical camera ready

OH i have to think about that one i am still working on your 32 line challenge from a few years ago ! if i can do a 32 line direct light camera 3rd time lucky fingers crossed my thoughts will turn to higher line rate version...a 120 line viewer as a reward hell i will have to at least think about it

Well, at least you know that TBP handles 32 line...