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gary wrote:Yep Sutton invented television and Wayne Swan is the "worlds best treasurer" - good old ABC...
gary wrote:Harry, I have studied him quite a bit and there is no doubt that he contributed a great deal to the "science" of television, particularly in Kerr Cell development - but he never built a working version - simply because he lacked something that Baird had - electronic amplification.
Looking at hes system theres no amplifying idea in it at all...i can only think to amplify with out electronics you would only have electric magnetic ideas to try some sort of transformer amplifying idea ..they could do that back then nice thin copper would be hard to get if at all ?Unfortunately it is difficult to now extract the real from the fanciful with regards to his achievements - for instance - it is claimed that he actually televised a Melbourne Cup race over telegraph wire to Ballarat - without electronic amplification - I'm afraid I can't accept that.
That was in the magazine as i recall they went into some detail about it but i just thinking this has to be a joke ...no internet back then to google it .
Yes its hard enough to do it with electronics of today.In my mind, Baird has to be recognised as the inventor of television because he demonstrated greyscale pictures first - end of story.
True he got a working one going had enough of that inventor in him to make it work in just at the right time ...
i think due to the number of people working on it it would of been done by some one perhaps a year or 2 later but he won no guts no glory .
To make television even at that time you had to use the inventions of others Nipkow Michael Faraday, Fleming, Lee De Forest so on it would be a very big list but i suppose thats the way it works .When I look at Sutton's schematics I see nothing significantly different to Nipkow's original patent which, of course, predates Sutton's work.
True he got a working one going had enough of that inventor in him to make it work in just at the right time ...
i think due to the number of people working on it it would of been done by some one perhaps a year or 2 later but he won no guts no glory .
Little did he know he's original system would be our hobby far in the future .
gary wrote:
Perhaps someone would like to take up the challenge? Harry?
gary wrote:The problem with that is there is no "power" amplification - i.e. voltage goes up but current comes down (or vice versa) - what you need is to be able to feed in extra power and have that modulated by the sensor signal. Magnetic amplifiers may be able to do this but I don't think they have the necessary bandwidth - that is where I would start though. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetic_amplifier
Somehow I think if you followed this course you would end up reinventing electronics - but you never know!
aussie_bloke wrote:I listened to the audio, it's amazing to know that the first practical demonstration of television goes back to 1885 and was invented by an Aussie! I did a Google on Henry and found one of his patents from Telegraphic Journal and Electrical Review (7th November 1890) http://www.ieeeghn.org/wiki/images/d/db ... ention.pdf .
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