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when is a Nipkow a fake ?

PostPosted: Tue Sep 06, 2016 11:39 pm
by Harry Dalek
http://www.tvplayvideos.com/2,XSh6U4L0O ... pkows-Disk

MMMM picture always in sync any speed ...wider than the nipkow holes so on.

Re: when is a Nipkow a fake ?

PostPosted: Sat Sep 10, 2016 5:13 pm
by DrZarkov
It looks like there is a picture behind a spinning Nipkow-disc to "simulate" TV.

Re: when is a Nipkow a fake ?

PostPosted: Sun Sep 11, 2016 12:02 am
by Harry Dalek
DrZarkov wrote:It looks like there is a picture behind a spinning Nipkow-disc to "simulate" TV.


yes using a little tv or light box perhaps ...so really showing nothing like how a nipkow really works ...

Re: when is a Nipkow a fake ?

PostPosted: Sun Sep 11, 2016 9:20 am
by gary
Harry Dalek wrote:
DrZarkov wrote:It looks like there is a picture behind a spinning Nipkow-disc to "simulate" TV.


yes using a little tv or light box perhaps ...so really showing nothing like how a nipkow really works ...


Actually Baird (or at least his co-workers) used the same technique either to test disks or to take photos. If I get time I will try to dig up a reference.

The give away here is that the picture remains stable even when the disk spins down.

Re: when is a Nipkow a fake ?

PostPosted: Sun Sep 11, 2016 5:49 pm
by Harry Dalek
gary wrote:
Actually Baird (or at least his co-workers) used the same technique either to test disks or to take photos. If I get time I will try to dig up a reference.

The give away here is that the picture remains stable even when the disk spins down.



Yes Gary No sync needed at any speed pretty useful why didn't we think of it ? :lol:

I have not heard of this Baird test on photos Gary so i am interested if you track it down .

Re: when is a Nipkow a fake ?

PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2016 1:48 pm
by gary
Harry Dalek wrote:
gary wrote:
Actually Baird (or at least his co-workers) used the same technique either to test disks or to take photos. If I get time I will try to dig up a reference.

The give away here is that the picture remains stable even when the disk spins down.



Yes Gary No sync needed at any speed pretty useful why didn't we think of it ? :lol:

I have not heard of this Baird test on photos Gary so i am interested if you track it down .


I finally found it Harry, Vol 35 No.3 page nine (or Paganini if you are into classical music ;-).

Re: when is a Nipkow a fake ?

PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2016 4:39 pm
by Viewmaster
There are many other examples on that site

http://www.tvplayvideos.com/2,yguYWDtOr ... ct-(Part-6)

Not a very successful demo!

Is he trying to use one of your apps, Gary?

Multi standard here.....
http://www.tvplayvideos.com/2,qwYiAJMnc ... recordings

Re: when is a Nipkow a fake ?

PostPosted: Sun Oct 30, 2016 9:55 am
by gary
Viewmaster wrote:There are many other examples on that site

http://www.tvplayvideos.com/2,yguYWDtOr ... ct-(Part-6)

Not a very successful demo!

Is he trying to use one of your apps, Gary?

Multi standard here.....
http://www.tvplayvideos.com/2,qwYiAJMnc ... recordings


That "site" is just a collection of mostly unrelated videos "scraped" from various video media sites (mainly YouTube).

The videos you link to are part of this forum's AussieBloke projects which he documented extensively both on this forum, YouTube, and his own web site.

What you are seeing there is a stage in testing - something we all go through but rarely make public ;-).

Yes that is TBP app that he is using to monitor the output of the camera.

The main thing is that whilst the camera, at that stage, is probably not functioning as well as Troy would have liked, it is none-the-less *not* "fake" as was the example referred to in the title of this thread.

Re: when is a Nipkow a fake ?

PostPosted: Sun Oct 30, 2016 10:52 am
by McGee2021
gary wrote:
Harry Dalek wrote:
DrZarkov wrote:It looks like there is a picture behind a spinning Nipkow-disc to "simulate" TV.


yes using a little tv or light box perhaps ...so really showing nothing like how a nipkow really works ...


Actually Baird (or at least his co-workers) used the same technique either to test disks or to take photos. If I get time I will try to dig up a reference.

The give away here is that the picture remains stable even when the disk spins down.



Here is a page from Television For the Amateur Constructor, from 1933.